Richest 2% hold half of world's assets - Page 16

BCPVP · #**151** 12-10-2006, 04:57 AM

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If the price of gasoline goes up, I have less to spend on other things, and gasoline providers have more.

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Couldn't one consider this a less win-win, but still win-win? Why else would you spend money on the gasoline if you didn't value it more than the money you spent on it?

peritonlogon · #**152** 12-10-2006, 05:01 AM

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If the price of gasoline goes up, I have less to spend on other things, and gasoline providers have more.

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Couldn't one consider this a less win-win, but still win-win? Why else would you spend money on the gasoline if you didn't value it more than the money you spent on it?

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I still have less, they still has more. There are 2 different things going on here.

BCPVP · #**153** 12-10-2006, 05:13 AM

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If the price of gasoline goes up, I have less to spend on other things, and gasoline providers have more.

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Couldn't one consider this a less win-win, but still win-win? Why else would you spend money on the gasoline if you didn't value it more than the money you spent on it?

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I still have less, they still has more. There are 2 different things going on here.

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Only if you do agree to buy the gas.

MidGe · #**154** 12-10-2006, 05:36 AM

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The entrepreneur guarantees wages to the worker in exchange for the profit.

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Entirely false! The entrepreneur does not! How many workers have been robbed of their entitlements because the entrepreneur was a half-brained nitwit, brainwashed in the Dale Carnegie, Napoleon Hill, Ayn Rand, etc... type of pseudo-intellectual who thinks that the desire to succeed will somehow warrant success!?

bobman0330 · #**155** 12-10-2006, 06:01 AM

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every non-voting share, which, most don't vote because they're held by mutual funds, gets counted as siding with the management instead of simply not counted

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This is false. Even if it were true, most mutual funds vote their shares. Individuals are far more likely to fail to vote.

BCPVP · #**156** 12-10-2006, 07:15 AM

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The entrepreneur guarantees wages to the worker in exchange for the profit.

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Entirely false! The entrepreneur does not! How many workers have been robbed of their entitlements because the entrepreneur was a half-brained nitwit, brainwashed in the Dale Carnegie, Napoleon Hill, Ayn Rand, etc... type of pseudo-intellectual who thinks that the desire to succeed will somehow warrant success!?

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False, eh? What would you call it when the entrepreneur makes a contract with an employee stating that he'll pay the worker $X/hour for his labor?

MidGe · #**157** 12-10-2006, 07:41 AM

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False, eh? What would you call it when the entrepreneur makes a contract with an employee stating that he'll pay the worker $X/hour for his labor?

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A con, if dependent on the entrepreneur success! What would you call it?

SNOWBALL · #**158** 12-10-2006, 08:09 AM

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And didn't you admit earlier that most owners/managers are not parasites? What's the point of calling capitalism a "parasitic production model" if not empty rhetoric?

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No. I said owners who ALSO perform work in the firm make a real contribution. That just means they aren't pure parasites. This is just a single maggot in the rotting corpse of our world. In large part, those who work are poor, and those who are rich do not work.

pvn · #**159** 12-10-2006, 09:32 AM

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No. I "work for" the guy whose yard I'm mowing.

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Sure ok. You work for him, but you aren't his employee. He's a client.

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What's the difference? He can fire me.

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Are you gonna tell me a lawyer with his own practice isn't self employed because he has clients?

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I'm going to tell you that "self-employed" isn't some magic exemption from the reality that someone else is giving you money in exchange for something.

tolbiny · #**160** 12-10-2006, 01:22 PM

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False, eh? What would you call it when the entrepreneur makes a contract with an employee stating that he'll pay the worker $X/hour for his labor?

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A con, if dependent on the entrepreneur success! What would you call it?

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The employee gets paid every 2 weeks, the entrepeneur often has a business plan that expects to not make any money for months or even a couple of years, meanwhile the employee is still getting paid every 2 weeks, MAYBE the employee misses his last paycheck, or gets a reduced amount (and the most sever cases he might miss 2-3 pay checks).