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Old 05-05-2005, 03:01 PM
TimM TimM is offline
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Preflop: is with , .

Flop: (1.50 SB)

This is not possible.

What was the PF action? I assume raise, call, call, with 6 SB on the flop.
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Old 05-05-2005, 03:02 PM
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I didn't notice he only had backdoor on the flop. I don't like the flop call but I also don't think it's a horrible play.
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Old 05-05-2005, 03:05 PM
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Preflop: is with , .

Flop: (1.50 SB)

This is not possible.

What was the PF action? I assume raise, call, call, with 6 SB on the flop.

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Of course it's possible. Limp, complete, check.
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Old 05-05-2005, 03:08 PM
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Preflop: is with , .

Flop: (1.50 SB)

This is not possible.

What was the PF action? I assume raise, call, call, with 6 SB on the flop.

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Of course it's possible. Limp, complete, check.
-James

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That's 3 SB, unless some players are all in (obviously not based on post-flop). Converter is broken.
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Old 05-05-2005, 03:15 PM
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Default Re: DERB Acts a fool

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Preflop: is with , .

Flop: (1.50 SB)

This is not possible.

What was the PF action? I assume raise, call, call, with 6 SB on the flop.

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Of course it's possible. Limp, complete, check.
-James

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That's 3 SB, unless some players are all in (obviously not based on post-flop). Converter is broken.

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Oh I was assuming it was 1.5 BB. My fault.
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Old 05-05-2005, 03:37 PM
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I wish I could run one-tenth as good.

The luckiest player in the world--he'll be in GA within a couple of years.
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Old 05-05-2005, 04:41 PM
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This hand is entirely unremarkable. I think DERB played it well.

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sarcasm meter?
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Old 05-05-2005, 04:50 PM
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He is not just loose and aggressive, he is also a calling station. I played a hand with him where someone raised in EP, 2 cold called and he 3 bet AJo. I capped out of the SB. I bet every street and the final board was 94259. He overcalled the river. Are you saying that this is indicative of some higher level postflop strategy of which I am not aware? That same day he called 2 bets cold in his BB in a 3 way pot with QTo against a 3 bettor who only raised 10 percent of his hands and the original raiser who raises 12. Could even Ray Zee churn a profit with QTo in this scenario, much less someone who pays off in the most obvious laydown situations? The simple answer is no, of course not.

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No one is arguing that he plays every hand in a +EV way, only that he is (maybe) a winning player overall.

You don't have to line up on one side or the other here, it isn't necessarily that he made this play with AJ for metagame reasons if he really is a 3bb/100 player, or that he automatically sucks because he had a 0% chance of winning this hand. It's certainly possible that he wins despite horrible leaks. His win rate doesn't have to be 3bb/100 or something in the negative. It's possible that the guy is somewhere close to break even.
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Old 05-05-2005, 05:07 PM
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Not when you have expert knowledge that he doesn't play to a 3bb/100h.

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I have no idea if he is a winning player, but his numbers suggest it's very likely he is. That's all I'm saying.

You guys are saying he's bad, very bad...more like a -3BB/100 hands players, OK. But the numbers suggest that it's very unlikely he is as bad as a break even player.

So we have to at least consider the idea that is more likely he is a winning player.
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Old 05-05-2005, 05:10 PM
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Over the course of a year, it is overwhelmingly likely that one of them would run extremely well. It is very possible that DERB is that one guy.

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But running well for a -3BB/100 hand guy is breaking even, breaking even for 100k hands puts them in the top 1% of lucky players. This guy is way off the charts.

It's possible he is a very bad player, running very well, it's also very unlikely, that's all I'm saying.
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