Official June Thread: General Discussion/etc - Page 15

ImsaKidd · #**141** 06-01-2007, 08:18 PM

In summary:

Seat 3: GogUMagog (button) mucked [Th Ad]
Seat 5: IMSAKIDD (big blind) showed [Js Ah] and won ($402)

Seat 1: GogUMagog (small blind) showed [Qs Kd]
Seat 6: IMSAKIDD (button) showed [Qd As] and won ($238) with three of a kind, Fours

ImsaKidd · #**142** 06-01-2007, 08:19 PM

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BTW, if anyone seriously wonders about shortstackers running above expectation, my theory is that many play on short BRs. (Like 20 short buys or whatever) So the guys who run normally, or poorly, are never heard of again (busto) and only show up as those bad fish who contribute 2 buyins to the game total or so. The other ones run better then average to escape the BR hole

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So you're saying the long term shortstackers have lucky accounts?

HEK · #**143** 06-01-2007, 08:19 PM

all set w/stars $ now.

Moonshine · #**144** 06-01-2007, 08:24 PM

lol barbarianx is the worst shortstacker ever

TheWorstPlayer · #**145** 06-01-2007, 08:24 PM

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In summary:

Seat 3: GogUMagog (button) mucked [Th Ad]
Seat 5: IMSAKIDD (big blind) showed [Js Ah] and won ($402)

Seat 1: GogUMagog (small blind) showed [Qs Kd]
Seat 6: IMSAKIDD (button) showed [Qd As] and won ($238) with three of a kind, Fours

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Yes, you own me hard. Congrats. I really can't say how much I hate all these short stackers. Like I really hate them with a burning passion. They completely ruin the games. It's like "should I iso this huge fish? no, guess I can't because Mr. ShortStack is going to go all-in with JTo or 66 or whatever." Sure, eventually I'll win money from the short stacks since they suck so bad in general and I get it in good vs. them so often. But not nearly as much as I'd make from the big fish if the short stacks would buy in for even 40-50bb. And it's no fun making money from the short stacks. How fun is it for me to just know their hand range for pushing so pick a good hand range for raising/calling and then just watch the board come out. So [censored] boring. I hate it and it ruins all rhythm to the games and it pisses the fish off and it's just a travesty. Honestly, I can't believe Stars has done nothing about it yet. There are now 2-3 short stacks at every 5/10+ table.

BobboFitos · #**146** 06-01-2007, 08:26 PM

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rob thinks anything >2outs is "decent" equity :P

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i count 8

Eagles · #**147** 06-01-2007, 08:29 PM

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lol barbarianx is the worst shortstacker ever

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QFT

ImsaKidd · #**148** 06-01-2007, 08:31 PM

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lol barbarianx is the worst shortstacker ever

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I think antikiller is worse.

TheWorstPlayer · #**149** 06-01-2007, 08:34 PM

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lol barbarianx is the worst shortstacker ever

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I've never seen him lose a hand.

BobboFitos · #**150** 06-01-2007, 08:36 PM

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BTW, if anyone seriously wonders about shortstackers running above expectation, my theory is that many play on short BRs. (Like 20 short buys or whatever) So the guys who run normally, or poorly, are never heard of again (busto) and only show up as those bad fish who contribute 2 buyins to the game total or so. The other ones run better then average to escape the BR hole

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So you're saying the long term shortstackers have lucky accounts?

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huh? i never insinuated that. rather, shortstackers were lucky in the shorterm before variance (if they were pos EV to begin with) perhaps crushed them before law of large numbers took effect.

meaning, with a short br, and such a small relative edge, most run lucky to begin with (or, "normal") so that they can survive some bad luck. (IF they are +EV to begin with, which many are not)