Caesar's Palace- Player went all in and ran away with $ after I called

[fatshark]

Because, they cost less than the purchase price. If you walk out with any, they actually make money.
For example: The average chip may cost a property around 30 cents to make....so, if you have a $5 chip you plan on keeping and never cash in, the casino makes 4.70 on that chip.
In home games, you buy in and in order to make the "kitty" right everyone must cash in their chips. I suppose if you didn't, someone would make a buck or two off that, but your buddy would be out some of his chips. That is the difference.
Anyway, once you buy chips from a casino, they are yours until you cash them back in, it is actually called a buy back transaction.

[Jack Bando]

Regarding what OP should have done during the hand.

So, the solution was to ask the dealer what all-in guys action was and then get it counted in the middle before calling? What if OP had the nuts, won't he look like an asshat? What should he say when his opponent (or any opponent) says "Why need it counted? You had the best poss hand?"

[fatshark]

Whether or not Madman had the best hand or not (he had top set, which probably wasn't the nuts), verbal is binding, so his opponent had put him all in and then mucked his hand.......so essentially he went all in and then killed his hand. I do agree that a dealer with stronger skills would have made the player make a "forward motion" with his chips so he could rectify the pot; but that is how it went down.

[Jimbo]

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I certainly believe there is enough to support an attempted robbery charge.

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My questions were aimed at the definition of robbery; hoping a lawyer on the forum might be able to shed some light on this.

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I don't need to be a lawyer, and neither do you, to read the Nevada definition of robbery online. I posted the definition within this thread, the act committed has no resemblance to robbery, it appears to be Grand Larceny. Why a Nevada law enforcement officer of any kind would state otherwise is puzzling at best.

I do think the offender is a scumbag for hightailing it with the booty.

Jimbo

[PhatCasino]

I was actually in the room at a game when this all went down. Happened around 8:30-9pm or so last saturday.. Around 3 tables away... It got loud with agruging - really exciting to watch - ive never seen it get that bad in a poker room... [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Madman is at fault, JR is at fault. The dealer is most likely to blame for running a horrible game from what I can tell. The floor didn't make it any better.

However madman is probably never going to see that money again. If he does i'd be suprised...

Compare the situation to this perhaps.... You leave $2k at the table to take a piss and come back to $1800. They review the tape after you call the floor and find a guy that left 30 mins ago took your $200 in chips. What would happen here? I think the casino would make good for the money [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

[RR]

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Compare the situation to this perhaps.... You leave $2k at the table to take a piss and come back to $1800. They review the tape after you call the floor and find a guy that left 30 mins ago took your $200 in chips. What would happen here? I think the casino would make good for the money

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They might. Most casinos make it pretty clear that they are not responsible for your chips. I do know the one time this happened while I was working we paid the player the money. The player that took it also played high in the pit so he was given a comped hotel room to sleep it off in (certainly not my decision).

[fatshark]

It was like I had stated earlier, some places will make a "Good faith" gesture and comp the player for their lose. They are very careful to use the phrase, "payback" and make it known it is more of a "comp." This way you stay outside of the cycle of paying back a player every time something turns up missing. If that were the case Randy and I could go into every club and I could pinch his stack and then he could complain and get his money back. We would have a nice little stack in one day.

[pkrguy]

To reply to the guy who compared Caesars Palace to his "home game"...
1st of all, I have a game i host every week. the chips, cards,table,chairs, and usually the beer are my personal private property. If you cames to my house and tried to steal my private property, you're danf right you would not make it out of my front door. But lets get serious. You cannot treat the situation the same. Once again let me revert to "Vigilante justice" Caesars is a public and liscensed establishment. In no way, shape, or form can you compare the outcome of this situation to a similar situation in a home game.

[RydenStoompala]

So I assume that if you had followed him from the table and beaten him unconsious with an ash tray, the casino would have had that part of the discussion on tape and you'd be tapping bars at the Clark Country jail? Caesars has some good-sized goons on security. They should have massaged this guy's genitals with a hacksaw.

[Cornell Fiji]

bump for update... I assume no news is bad news but I am just curious if the OP heard anything in the past few weeks