STTF SNG->cash thread - Page 145

Dr_Jeckyl_00 · #**1441** 10-09-2007, 09:23 AM

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You should be running PT and a heads up display and have stats on these guys. Stats are super important.

Readless, the AA hand looks good.

The AK hand you have to call the river as your pot odds are too strong. Your line is OK but versus the majority of players I would move in on the turn. They won't fold worse two pairs, and if you make a standard bet most players are folding Ax, KJ etc anyway, so the cases that matter are where they're drawing. The problem with this board is that a combo draw could have a ton of outs (QTss for instance has 17), so I have to bet big to protect my hand. I would bet smaller on the turn though if up against a weak player who would call with stuff like Ax and KJ.

The JJ hand is impossible to answer without some kind of read. Some players are so tight that I'd check fold the turn to them. Versus others I might look to checkraise allin on the flop. However I think regardless of opponent you should checkraise allin on the turn rather than call, you don't want to let them check behind on the river if they just have a 7 or something.

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I am still learning to use PT and PAHUD. All of my live stats are on the wrong people! I've been too lazy to study the tutorial when I only have an hour or so each night to play... but you're right, I need to take advantage of PT and figure out how to use it better.

Jbrochu · #**1442** 10-09-2007, 09:49 AM

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Devinlake, ChrisV, please don't tiltoff, this is a good argument that is helping me think through my own strategies here. Guys, you are doing well, TY.

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QFT

Jbrochu · #**1443** 10-09-2007, 10:00 AM

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I am still learning to use PT and PAHUD. All of my live stats are on the wrong people!

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If you're playing on Stars, more than likely your problem is you're using preferred seating in Stars but haven't told PAHUD about it. I forget exactly how to fix that and I'm at work so I can't look now, but if you want help configuring PAHUD I'll be online tonight after 8pm EST.

aim = Mr Mescalato

Inyaface · #**1444** 10-09-2007, 11:57 AM

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cha59 KK hand: Bet the flop you big girl.

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What are you trying to accomplish with this?

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Not give a free card to various one pair hands and draws essentially. Depending on what SB and BB are like I may also want to turn my hand into a bluff against Ax.

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On this board a cbet is pretty bad IMO. Your just bloating a pot with a marginal hand. Also why turn your hand into a bluff when you have good showdown value? I would prob bet the turn for value if it was checked again on a brick. About 1/2 pot

futuredoc85 · #**1445** 10-09-2007, 12:09 PM

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cha59 KK hand: Bet the flop you big girl.

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What are you trying to accomplish with this?

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Not give a free card to various one pair hands and draws essentially. Depending on what SB and BB are like I may also want to turn my hand into a bluff against Ax.

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On this board a cbet is pretty bad IMO. Your just bloating a pot with a marginal hand. Also why turn your hand into a bluff when you have good showdown value? I would prob bet the turn for value if it was checked again on a brick. About 1/2 pot

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+1

plz help

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...=0#Post12425048

Jbrochu · #**1446** 10-09-2007, 01:01 PM

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Did I play this ok?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG+1 ($24.65)
MP1 ($24.75)
MP2 ($31.70)
CO ($15.30)
Button ($3.75)
Hero ($36.05)
BB ($7.75)
UTG ($18.70)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.5, 1 fold, UTG calls $1.25, MP2 calls $1.25.

Flop: ($4.75) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $4, UTG calls $4, MP2 calls $4.

Turn: ($16.75) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP2 bets $26.2 (All-In), Hero calls $26.20, UTG folds.

River: ($0) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $69.15

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Without a specific read I would lead the turn. As played, I would call. I can't see why he jams this if he had flopped a boat or trip 4's or turned a boat here with JJ. To me, it feels way more likely to be J,9 or a smaller overpair.

Edit: could even be 88 actually.

Jbrochu · #**1447** 10-09-2007, 01:08 PM

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how's my line all streets? What do I do on the river?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($24.40)
BB ($17.80)
UTG ($23.65)
UTG+1 ($16.85)
MP1 ($50.55)
Hero ($30.55)
MP3 ($15.55)
CO ($23.55)
Button ($45.85)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, MP1 calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.5, 5 folds, UTG calls $1.25, MP1 calls $1.25.

Flop: ($4.85) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets $3, UTG calls $3, MP1 folds.

Turn: ($10.85) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $9, UTG calls $9.

River: ($28.85) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $10.15 (All-In), Hero?

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I like your line - and I think you have to make a crying call on the river.

Jbrochu · #**1448** 10-09-2007, 01:19 PM

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How's my line?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 ($8.75)
MP2 ($44.30)
CO ($9.40)
Button ($16.35)
SB ($29.40)
Hero ($25)
UTG ($22.80)
UTG+1 ($14.55)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
4 folds, CO calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.25, CO calls $1.

Flop: ($2.60) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $1.75, CO calls $1.75.

Turn: ($6.10) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $2.5, Hero calls $2.50.

River: ($11.10) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $3.9 (All-In), Hero calls $3.90.

Final Pot: $18.90

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I would probably c/f the turn against a lot of villains.

I would not always bet this flop but I would bet it often.

If I make it to the river as played, I would call.

This hand is a really good example of why position is so damn important, and as ChrisV said, you need reads.

K䲰䮥n · #**1449** 10-09-2007, 06:11 PM

All uknowns. Comments on all streets, please.

Seat 1: Firetribe ( $100.75 )
Seat 3: G ster ( $114.09 )
Seat 5: Saage ( $81.25 )
Seat 6: R3sistance ( $98.50 )
Seat 8: bsasplayer ( $68.40 )
Seat 10: Mongoose92 ( $46.70 )
Mongoose92 posts Small Blind $0.50
Firetribe posts Big Blind $1

Dealing cards
Your cards 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [Firetribe]
G ster raises $4
Saage calls $4
R3sistance folds
bsasplayer folds
Mongoose92 calls $3.50
Firetribe calls $3

Dealing Flop 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Mongoose92 checks
Firetribe checks
G ster checks
Saage checks

Dealing Turn J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
Mongoose92 checks
Firetribe bets $8
G ster folds
Saage calls $8
Mongoose92 folds

Dealing River 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Firetribe bets $18
Saage raises $69.25
Firetribe calls $51.25

GtrHtr · #**1450** 10-09-2007, 06:12 PM

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This is a read based play, villain is 32/22/4, all of it in flop af btw, wide range obv. I'm running 22/19/3 on this table, he likely views me as tag but his attention may be on UTG who is a huge donk and his focus has been on playing vs him (UTG) in almost every pot he's been in. His 3 bet on the flop is standard for him. My intent once the turn fell was to crai, thoughts?

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $134.50
SB: $99
BB: $107.25
UTG: $98.40
Hero (MP): $127.10
CO: $156.05

Pre-Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG folds, Hero raises to $4, CO calls $4, 3 folds

Flop: ($9.50) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets $6, CO raises to $17, Hero calls $11

Turn: ($43.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO bets $30, Hero raises to $106.10 and is All-In

FMP

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