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#1411
10-02-2007, 01:47 PM
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Re: ***Official 2007 Philadelphia Phillies Thread***
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I think I'd rather see Moyer pitching than everyone pitching on short rest. [/ QUOTE ] I'll take Hamels on 3 days rest and Kendrick in game 5 with full rest, but apparently I'm not nearly as high on Moyer as you guys. Don't have much confidence in a 44 year old pitcher after a 200 inning season who doesn't break 80. [/ QUOTE ] So, when he was 39 and did the same thing and didn't break 80mph and went 3-0 in the playoffs, you'd have made the same argument, right? No way Moyer goes 3-0?? Or even 1-0? [/ QUOTE ] Five years ago his ERA was over a run and a half better than this year. His fastball was probably 10 miles faster, since he was throwing in the low-mid 80s as recently as last year. Looking at how his ERA has skyrocketed and his velocity fallen over the course of this season, it's not a stretch to conclude that he is too worn out to be successful anymore. [/ QUOTE ] I guess his 1-run, 0 w, 6 K performance on Sunday, worn out with no velocity and a 'skyrocketing' ERA was unsuccessful then. 
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#1412
10-02-2007, 01:54 PM
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Re: ***Official 2007 Philadelphia Phillies Thread***
Moyer last 4 starts, 2 home 2 away:
5+ ip, 0 E.run, 5 hits, 0 W, 6 Ks 5+ ip, 6 runs [smallest strike zone evah] 6 ip, 1 run 7 ip, 2 runs, 4 hits ~ 3.42 ERA if I calculated correctly.
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#1413
10-02-2007, 01:56 PM
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Re: ***Official 2007 Philadelphia Phillies Thread***
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I think I'd rather see Moyer pitching than everyone pitching on short rest. [/ QUOTE ] I'll take Hamels on 3 days rest and Kendrick in game 5 with full rest, but apparently I'm not nearly as high on Moyer as you guys. Don't have much confidence in a 44 year old pitcher after a 200 inning season who doesn't break 80. [/ QUOTE ] So, when he was 39 and did the same thing and didn't break 80mph and went 3-0 in the playoffs, you'd have made the same argument, right? No way Moyer goes 3-0?? Or even 1-0? [/ QUOTE ] Five years ago his ERA was over a run and a half better than this year. His fastball was probably 10 miles faster, since he was throwing in the low-mid 80s as recently as last year. Looking at how his ERA has skyrocketed and his velocity fallen over the course of this season, it's not a stretch to conclude that he is too worn out to be successful anymore. [/ QUOTE ] I guess his 1-run, 0 w, 6 K performance on Sunday, worn out with no velocity and a 'skyrocketing' ERA was unsuccessful then. [/ QUOTE ] No, but his 6 run performance the start before that was. Eaton had a 7 inning shutout this year too.
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#1414
10-02-2007, 01:58 PM
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Re: ***Official 2007 Philadelphia Phillies Thread***
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Moyer last 4 starts, 2 home 2 away: 5+ ip, 0 E.run, 5 hits, 0 W, 6 Ks 5+ ip, 6 runs [smallest strike zone evah] 6 ip, 1 run 7 ip, 2 runs, 4 hits ~ 3.42 ERA if I calculated correctly. [/ QUOTE ] Kind of a cherry-picked stat, since you conveniently used 4 instead of 3 or 5 (or 9 which would have really killed your case).
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#1416
10-02-2007, 02:17 PM
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Re: ***Official 2007 Philadelphia Phillies Thread***
I think it's close enough that Moyer starting on full rest won't make me a nervous wreck waiting for the pitcher to unravel at any moment.
Eaton on the other hand...
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#1417
10-02-2007, 02:36 PM
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Re: ***Official 2007 Philadelphia Phillies Thread***
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More like, Hamels blows out his arm before the game and out trots Eaton for Game 7 of the NLCS, which we promptly lose 28-3. [/ QUOTE ] Apparently not possible now, since he didn't make the roster. http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playof...ory?id=3046331 [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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#1419
10-02-2007, 02:42 PM
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Re: ***Official 2007 Philadelphia Phillies Thread***
HAY PHILLIES PHANATICS. Prs to be destroying the Rockies for my viewing pleasure. [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
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#1420
10-02-2007, 03:12 PM
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Re: ***Official 2007 Philadelphia Phillies Thread***
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Right-hander Kyle Lohse will pitch out of the bullpen in the first two games. If he isn't used in either one, Lohse (9-12) would likely start Game 3 and veteran lefty Jamie Moyer (14-12) would start Game 4, if it's necessary. [/ QUOTE ] I don't like this. Leave Lohse as a starter. The part that bothers me is that I can see Manuel just blowing him in the seventh when he doesn't need to. " Geoff Geary has an elbow injury, but he might return for the NLCS if the Phillies get that far." [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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