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#132
06-12-2007, 07:23 PM
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Re: evolution of a poker player...
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[ QUOTE ] It's like a columnist in a well-known poker mag, who shows all those equations in his column to determine his estimated (exact?) EV for every play based on his assignment of his opponent's range. Well, I've never heard of him taking ANYTHING down....... [/ QUOTE ] wait, are you talking about Jman? Is this sarcasm? [/ QUOTE ] No, I won't mention names or monikers, I don't believe in being personally insulting towards people. I was just highlighting a generality that I think that the mathematical and mechanical aspects are being repeatedly and grossly overemphasized as the new "key" to poker. 
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#133
06-12-2007, 07:43 PM
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Re: evolution of a poker player...
The frame of reference for poker is online poker.
Online poker is real poker, live poker is highly inefficient in many aspects and the players are generally much much weaker. When people ask, he's good but could he play well live? The answer to this is who gives a ... The real question is could the live player make it online, and the answer 99% of the time is no because the online player learns the game 1000% faster.
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#135
06-12-2007, 11:37 PM
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Re: evolution of a poker player...
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"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt." -- Abraham Lincoln [/ QUOTE ] "Nothing is so firmly believed as what we least know." --Michel de Montaigne
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#136
06-13-2007, 12:27 AM
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Re: evolution of a poker player...
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The frame of reference for poker is online poker. Online poker is real poker, live poker is highly inefficient in many aspects and the players are generally much much weaker. When people ask, he's good but could he play well live? The answer to this is who gives a ... The real question is could the live player make it online, and the answer 99% of the time is no because the online player learns the game 1000% faster. [/ QUOTE ] Great post and very true.
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#137
06-13-2007, 01:11 AM
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Re: evolution of a poker player...
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[ No, I won't mention names or monikers, I don't believe in being personally insulting towards people. I was just highlighting a generality that I think that the mathematical and mechanical aspects are being repeatedly and grossly overemphasized as the new "key" to poker. [/ QUOTE ] They are the key...online. I don't know why the online players can't accept we're talking about apples and oranges. Being good on Party Poker doesn't mean one can sit in front of Chip Reese and win. Being good at one doesn't guarantee you'll be as good at the other.
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#138
06-13-2007, 02:54 AM
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Re: evolution of a poker player...
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The frame of reference for poker is online poker. Online poker is real poker, live poker is highly inefficient in many aspects and the players are generally much much weaker. When people ask, he's good but could he play well live? The answer to this is who gives a ... The real question is could the live player make it online, and the answer 99% of the time is no because the online player learns the game 1000% faster. [/ QUOTE ] live vs. online reminds me of rap's East Coast vs. West Coast. a big whatever.
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#139
06-13-2007, 03:30 AM
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Re: evolution of a poker player...
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Being good on Party Poker doesn't mean one can sit in front of Chip Reese and win. Being good at one doesn't guarantee you'll be as good at the other. [/ QUOTE ] This has nothing to do with quality of live players vs online players. Of course most random 1/2 PP grinders aren't going to beat someone that has been winning in the biggest games for 3 decades. Second of all I'm sure that most the 25/50 experts probably could beat him if the game is just NL Hold Them even though that isn't the point. The point is that online players at a certain level are just plain better than basically any live-only player at the same level. This "can they beat the best in the world" thing always comes up in online vs live and it is completely irrelevant. We're not talking apples and oranges. We're talking fresh delicious apples and rotten worm infested apples.
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#140
06-13-2007, 05:10 AM
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Re: evolution of a poker player...
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[ QUOTE ] The frame of reference for poker is online poker. Online poker is real poker, live poker is highly inefficient in many aspects and the players are generally much much weaker. When people ask, he's good but could he play well live? The answer to this is who gives a ... The real question is could the live player make it online, and the answer 99% of the time is no because the online player learns the game 1000% faster. [/ QUOTE ] live vs. online reminds me of WNBA vs. NBA. a big joke. [/ QUOTE ] hmm, never FYP a blue before
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