POG Championship - POG Mayor Game Thread

[Zurvan]

Wow, mets, you're really taking this hard, aren't you? Personal attacks and everything.

IF this was even a moral issue (which it's not, wtf are you smoking), there's no clear definition of what the RIGHT thing is.

If one considers this a game (and why wouldn't you? It is), then morally an individual is required to do everything they can to win said game. That is the expectation coming in - that all players will be trying to win the game, to the best of their ability.

So, is it more or less moral to stick with a strategy that you know will cause you to lose, or to go back on your word in a game, and take the optimal path to winning?

You can say whatever you want, but you left Herbie alive yesterday because it was the best thing for you personally, but not the best thing for the alliance as a whole. How do I know that? Because bravos could not be counted on to be here when needed for a backstab, meaning, if he is here today instead of herbie, I stay loyal because I have no alternative.

[Zurvan]

I forgot to address your point.

Why would herbie & RT trust me? Because, at this point in the game, it is to my benefit to do what I'm saying I will do.

[metsandfinsfan]

basically all im saying to you is the stuff you said about val and kokiri and dustin

so your offended that i call you a snake? Dont take it personally.

Yes it's a game. And you are a snake in the game. Next time i play a game like this, i group you as a snake. Doesnt mean i dont like you on a personal level, you slimy piece of garbage

[RoundTower]

lol at me being the swing voter here.

Right now I don't trust anyone to do anything other than what is in their best interest. Earlier in the game, I trusted people because they had an incentive to be viewed as trustworthy for the endgame.

[metsandfinsfan]

your just a hypocrite with all the stuff you said about all the untrustable people all game

but i see now that it is all part of your master plan.

by the way, i vote for anybody but you in the final 2 if u are there and i am not. If its herbie vs you, i think the 1st 3 on the jury vote herbie.

thing is they probablty vote you over roundtower so that will be your plan. Roundtower will decide the fate of the game

he could have gone to us and then he and roundtower prob knock me out and he has a chance to beat dmk in the finals maybe.

but now ..... assuming nothing changes, herbie wins if hes there.

[metsandfinsfan]

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lol at me being the swing voter here.

Right now I don't trust anyone to do anything other than what is in their best interest. Earlier in the game, I trusted people because they had an incentive to be viewed as trustworthy for the endgame.

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roundtower we had an alliance. DMK and I never broke it. there was no reason to.

Zurvan felt he would be first voted out in final 3 so made a move, but he underestimated dmks morals. All you had to do was stay true and stick with me and dmk and you were in the final 3 with integrity

now you have a decision to make. Good luck with it sir

[metsandfinsfan]

my favorite part about +/- is that i had absolutely zero doubt that chim spook smell and me would be the final 4. Zero. We had an alliance, and we all knew what that meant.

[Zurvan]

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basically all im saying to you is the stuff you said about val and kokiri and dustin

so your offended that i call you a snake? Dont take it personally.

Yes it's a game. And you are a snake in the game. Next time i play a game like this, i group you as a snake. Doesnt mean i dont like you on a personal level, you slimy piece of garbage

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Listen, this is simple.

There's three ways to play a game like this.

1. All alliance, all loyalty, all the time.
2. No alliance, no loyalty, ever.
3. A shifting strategy, using the the right balance of alliance and no alliance, based on the current state of the game.

Dustin et al were being dumb because they were stuck on strategy #2. It was to my benefit to be seen as being on point number 1.

Eskimo understands this. I understand this. Herbie understands this. Roundtower understands this:

An alliance can only take you so far. At some point, you will probably have to ditch it to win.

Sure, you can return fire on me iwth the same things I threw at them, but I don't think it serves a game purpose for you.

You can consider me a "snake" in future games... or you can remember that I'm always going to make (what I consider) the optimal at a given time.

Yeah, and I'm not offended at all. You have to try much harder to do that.

[metsandfinsfan]

i won +/- without ditching my alliance

[HerbieGRD]

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i won +/- without ditching my alliance

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That was a very different game dynamic since dead players could vote and have an impact on the outcome.