***** Clash of the Titans, Week 9: NE @ Ind*****

[Richard Tanner]

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The better MOV argument is that the Patriots run up the score, and the Colts do less of that. It's going to turn up in the rankings, but won't be indicative of true strength.

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Also, I just realized this two seconds ago, but we're not even talking about the Pats MOV v. Colts MOV you fool. We're talking about their opponents' MOV.

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Well sure when you say it like that it's obvious.

Cody

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Game Recap:

1. Horribly officiated game one-sided against the Patriots.

2. Patriots played their worst game of the year for 3 quarters.

3. Patriots decide to play fourth quarter and pull it out.

4. If the 2nd best team in the league on their home field can't beat the Patriots when the refs are in the bag and the Patriots mail it in for 3 quarters, I can't see the Patriots losing a game this year.

[lastchance]

Really, I suppose we're just arguing about how many points better the Patriots are than the Colts. I'd say 4-5 on a neutral field (yeah, this is actually pretty damn big).

[kyro]

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CLE isn't that great a team, the're largely Meh, I mean hanging 97 points is nice, but when it's against CIN's swiss cheese defense, c'mon. BUF is another Meh team. I won't go so far as to say horrible, but neither of them would give IND trouble (right?).

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WTF. I didn't say they'd give Indy trouble. I said they didn't suck. Are you trying to prove my point for me?

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And MOV is useless as the Pats are running up the score. Right, wrong, or indifferent, they score alot in garbage time.


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As I just told lastchance, we're not discussing Pats and Colts MOV. We're talking about SOS which completely ignores how badly the Pats run up the score on someone.

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lol at people arguing for pages and pages about which team is better based on opponent records when THEY JUST PLAYED EACH OTHER.

[lastchance]

And yeah, ok. W/E.

As for schedule strength, Sagarin + DVOA both say the Colts have played a tougher schedule.

[kyro]

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The better MOV argument is that the Patriots run up the score, and the Colts do less of that. It's going to turn up in the rankings, but won't be indicative of true strength.

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Also, I just realized this two seconds ago, but we're not even talking about the Pats MOV v. Colts MOV you fool. We're talking about their opponents' MOV.

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Well sure when you say it like that it's obvious.


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You're going to give me an anuerysm.

[lastchance]

And I think we all agree that the Patriots are better? We're quibbling over how much they are better. (I think this is right).

[Richard Tanner]

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WTF. I didn't say they'd give Indy trouble. I said they didn't suck. Are you trying to prove my point for me?

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When I say, "The colts would put up similar numbers if they played the Pats schedule" then that is very much an important issue.

Cody

[kyro]

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And yeah, ok. W/E.

As for schedule strength, Sagarin + DVOA both say the Colts have played a tougher schedule.

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You [censored]. I said not drastically different. I swear you two are ganging up on me to make me go insane.