SSNL POKER [cheese] thread AUG PT 2

[snowbank]

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anyone else known at the final table??

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Black9ines seems familiar, but I can't remember him.

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ya he has a few railbirds

[thac]

lololol ur a sicko AQ > AK

[snowbank]

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lololol ur a sicko AQ > AK

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i suck so bad. good thing ive been running well

[bilbo-san]

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Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $200.30
BB: $83.60
UTG: $200.00
Hero (MP): $192.75
CO: $201.15
BTN: $232.80

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $7.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $23.00</font>, CO folds, BTN calls $23.00, SB folds, BB calls $21.00, UTG calls $16.00

Flop: ($93) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($93) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets all-in for $60.60</font>, UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $169.75</font>, BTN calls $169.75

River: ($493.10) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $493.10 ($3 Rake)

BTN had J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a flush, Ace high) and WON (+$297.35)
BB had 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a pair of Eights) and LOST (-$83.60)
Hero had Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a pair of Queens) and LOST (-$192.75)



[x] Poker

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Explain flop check please. A gazillion worse overpairs call you here.

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I'm fairing really badly against their coldcalling range, on this flop. I also give BTN a chance to act and see what the others do. Same thing for the turn. Now that the flop is checked through I see what the first raiser does (who is solid, unlike the others).

Turn is not a spade and with the action on the flop and as it comes back to me I'm fairing much much better against their ranges. I'm really only worried about BTN slowplaying a monster, but that's not very often and my push is good I think.


UTG is a TAG, the other two are monkeys btw.

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Why are you faring really baddly on this flop vs. their cold-calling range? That makes no sense. Most non-idiots cold-call 3bets with 99-QQ, maybe AK. You crush that range on this flop.

And if they are indeed idiots, then their cold-call of your 3bet says almost nothing about their range, maybe just that they don't have COMPLETE garbage.

[bilbo-san]

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Bubaloo Therom: Folding K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] preflop for 100bbs is acceptable vs the nittyest of nits.

Reads:<font color="blue">Villain is standard 15/5/0.7 50nl nit over about 500 hands. one of my notes on him is "didnt 3bet QQ"</font>

Pacific Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.5
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $36.55
CO: $14.38
Hero: $85.5
SB: $59.07
BB: $48.75
Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $4.5</font>, CO folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $15.5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $47.75</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $47.75 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: $63.50

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Uh don't 4-bet this guy with KK if you're folding to a shove, I feel like this is the 4th time I've had to say this about KK pf vs ultra-nits.

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hmm ok, the flop comes w/ an A, we fold.
but most of the time its gonna be under cards and we're getting stacked anyways, so surely this is the way to lose the least monies?

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No. See, you are actually making a bigger $$ mistake by turning your hand into a bluff.

Do some calcs and figure out how big a mistake folding to a push is if he has AK (in dollars).

And then consider what happens when the nit folds. Well, you just cost your self 80BBs or so, because he sure as hell didn't fold AA.

It's about making the play that has the highest EV, not about "losing the least monies". If you're already convinced your KK is no good, why are you bluffing with it? You can't bluff someone off of the nuts.

[thac]

snowbank - FTP froze up for me and it won't let me log in til I restart my computer but I can't now. Keep me updated [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[snowbank]

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snowbank - FTP froze up for me and it won't let me log in til I restart my computer but I can't now. Keep me updated [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

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2nd with 4 left i doubled black up A2 vs. AK

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4th [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] 66 loses to blacks A5 all in pf

[futuredoc85]

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3rd