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check/call 1 8.33%
bet/call 5 41.67%
bet/3b 5 41.67%
check/raise 1 8.33%
bet/fold (NITS) 0 0%
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  #1311  
Old 10-05-2007, 06:27 PM
dipstikdave dipstikdave is offline
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Default Re: getting myself into trouble again

sb sucks, other players have done nothing out of the ordinary.
anyone like this? is calling better? should i make a smaller raise?


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SB ($2.85)
BB ($29.30)
UTG ($39.15)
MP ($37.35)
Hero ($25.50)
Button ($12.80)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.25, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.5</font>, Button calls $1.50, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $2.85</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $2.60, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $25.5</font>
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Old 10-05-2007, 06:49 PM
DevinLake DevinLake is offline
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Default Re: getting myself into trouble again

sucks is not a read that you can make decisions off of.
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Old 10-05-2007, 07:06 PM
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dip I generally just raise pot there (or 4x+1) even if he is calling a lot. I'd just call the 3bet unless I've seen him do this some crap. If he's doing this with KQs and 77 ish then I'm not sure pushing is great. You could make it ~$9 i think.
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Old 10-05-2007, 07:21 PM
dipstikdave dipstikdave is offline
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Default Re: getting myself into trouble again

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sucks is not a read that you can make decisions off of.

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sorry. sb is very loose bad player. he had 20 bbs when i sat down and has donked off most of it.
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Old 10-05-2007, 07:24 PM
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dip I generally just raise pot there (or 4x+1) even if he <font color="blue">(who? sb is all in) </font> is calling a lot. I'd just call the 3bet unless I've seen him do this some crap. If he's doing this with KQs and 77 ish then I'm not sure pushing is great. You could make it ~$9 i think.

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oh, ok. i guess you mean my 1st raise. yeah, it's a little large, but nl25ers call so much, i like to get more value from my good hands, also a little more fe.
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Old 10-05-2007, 07:33 PM
DevinLake DevinLake is offline
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I didn't realize sb was all in, I'd 4-bet here to isolate. I'd probably just shove, cause a 4-bet is going to be 1/3rd of your stack anyway.
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Old 10-06-2007, 03:52 AM
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dip I generally just raise pot there (or 4x+1) even if he <font color="blue">(who? sb is all in) </font> is calling a lot. I'd just call the 3bet unless I've seen him do this some crap. If he's doing this with KQs and 77 ish then I'm not sure pushing is great. You could make it ~$9 i think.

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oh, ok. i guess you mean my 1st raise. yeah, it's a little large, but nl25ers call so much, i like to get more value from my good hands, also a little more fe.

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yeah i misread the hh and thought the loose idiot was the OR oh well. still i like playi8gn conservatively and just call the 3bet. I've been nitting it up like 16/14 and have been owning 25 the last few days.
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Old 10-06-2007, 09:30 AM
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Default Re: getting myself into trouble again

Is a call on the river crazy given the missed draws? any other comments welcome as well


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UTG ($64.40)
Hero ($64.60)
Button ($49.75)
SB ($58.90)
BB ($29.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, Button calls $2, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($4.75) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $9.5</font>, Hero calls $6.

Turn: ($23.75) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($23.75) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $15</font>, Hero
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Old 10-06-2007, 09:36 AM
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Default Re: getting myself into trouble again

fold to the flop raise, unless you know your opponent does weird stuff.


also, fold the river. i don't like it, as there are hands like Jx and other, better stuff, that might play like that.
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Old 10-06-2007, 12:23 PM
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Default Re: getting myself into trouble again

Easy fold to flop raise. That said, I'd call the river bet as his line makes no sense. My guess is he had some kind of combo draw on the flop and missed.
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