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#1291
09-08-2007, 09:18 PM
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Re: SSNL POKER [cheese] thread SEPT
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] does anyone play this differently? Pacific Poker No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $0.5/$1 6 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: $46.6 UTG+1: $85.2 CO: $123.18 Bubaloo: $98.5 SB: $89.95 BB: $70.35 Pre-flop: (6 players) Bubaloo is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Bubaloo calls, SB calls, BB checks. Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($5, 5 players) SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $3</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Bubaloo raises to $9</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $25</font>, 3 folds, Bubaloo calls. Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($58, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">SB is all-in $63.95</font>, Bubaloo folds. Uncalled bets: $63.95 returned to SB. Results: Final pot: $119.05 [/ QUOTE ] Yes, I play it different. I shove the flop after SB 3bets. [/ QUOTE ] what are you putting sb on? [/ QUOTE ] also, he put > 1/3rd his stack in on flop, so we have NO fold equity. |
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#1292
09-08-2007, 09:27 PM
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Re: SSNL POKER [cheese] thread SEPT
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] does anyone play this differently? Pacific Poker No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $0.5/$1 6 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: $46.6 UTG+1: $85.2 CO: $123.18 Bubaloo: $98.5 SB: $89.95 BB: $70.35 Pre-flop: (6 players) Bubaloo is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Bubaloo calls, SB calls, BB checks. Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($5, 5 players) SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $3</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Bubaloo raises to $9</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $25</font>, 3 folds, Bubaloo calls. Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($58, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">SB is all-in $63.95</font>, Bubaloo folds. Uncalled bets: $63.95 returned to SB. Results: Final pot: $119.05 [/ QUOTE ] Yes, I play it different. I shove the flop after SB 3bets. [/ QUOTE ] what are you putting sb on? [/ QUOTE ] also, he put > 1/3rd his stack in on flop, so we have NO fold equity. [/ QUOTE ] You're only 40% equity against a set.. if he has an overpair, we're at 60% equity. I don't mind shoving even if he does call. |
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#1293
09-08-2007, 09:38 PM
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Re: SSNL POKER [cheese] thread SEPT
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] does anyone play this differently? Pacific Poker No Limit Holdem Ring game Blinds: $0.5/$1 6 players Converter Stack sizes: UTG: $46.6 UTG+1: $85.2 CO: $123.18 Bubaloo: $98.5 SB: $89.95 BB: $70.35 Pre-flop: (6 players) Bubaloo is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO folds, Bubaloo calls, SB calls, BB checks. Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($5, 5 players) SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $3</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Bubaloo raises to $9</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $25</font>, 3 folds, Bubaloo calls. Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($58, 2 players) <font color="#cc0000">SB is all-in $63.95</font>, Bubaloo folds. Uncalled bets: $63.95 returned to SB. Results: Final pot: $119.05 [/ QUOTE ] Yes, I play it different. I shove the flop after SB 3bets. [/ QUOTE ] what are you putting sb on? [/ QUOTE ] Honestly, it doesn't matter much. You need about 42% equity in the pot to make a shove neutral EV. Even against the absolute TIGHTEST imaginable SB range you have 37% equity, so a shove here never costs you too much money, and it's good for metagame (even though that's not too important at 100NL). Board: 7h 5h 4c Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 37.102% 35.49% 01.61% 13001 589.50 { Ah3h } Hand 1: 62.898% 61.29% 01.61% 22450 589.50 { 77, 55-44, 86s, 63s, 86o, 63o } Throw in an occasional overpair or another combo draw and you easily have the necessarily equity. |
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#1294
09-08-2007, 09:39 PM
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Re: SSNL POKER [cheese] thread SEPT
Nothing tilts me more than when someone misplays their hand and manages to get more money out of me.
I read him for exactly what he has, turn the only hand he beats into a bluff on river and he pretty much instacalls me cause he has 2 pair. Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter) SB: $871.50 Hero (BB): $401.80 UTG: $205.55 MP: $659.25 CO: $426.80 BTN: $140.70 Preflop: Hero is dealt 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players) UTG checks, 3 folds, SB calls $2.00, Hero checks Flop: ($12) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players) <font color="red">SB bets $8.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $26.00</font>, UTG folds, SB calls $18.00 Turn: ($64) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players) SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $45.00</font>, SB calls $45.00 River: ($154) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">SB bets $89.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $326.80</font>, SB calls $237.80 Pot Size: $807.60 ($3 Rake) |
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#1295
09-08-2007, 09:57 PM
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Re: SSNL POKER [cheese] thread SEPT
(Edit: fixed Hand 4)
Gah, annoying session. These players are all loose and bad (45-65vpip, ~30WTSD%). Are any of these hands not standard? Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter) SB: $210.55 BB: $122.20 UTG: $332.90 MP: $439.55 Hero (CO): $207.90 BTN: $305.80 Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players) 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8.00</font>, BTN folds, SB calls $7.00, BB folds Flop: ($18) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $13.00</font>, SB calls $13.00 **Flop bet was a tired mistake (playing a small session because of Grind promo), usually $15 here Turn: ($44) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">SB bets $12.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $60.00</font>, SB calls $48.00 River: ($164) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">SB bets $80.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $126.90</font>, SB calls $46.90 Pot Size: $417.80 ($3.50 Rake) Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter) SB: $267.51 BB: $198.00 Hero (UTG): $196.65 MP: $212.00 CO: $61.77 BTN: $208.85 Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players) <font color="red">Hero raises to $8.00</font>, 3 folds, SB calls $7.00, BB folds Flop: ($18) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $14.00</font>, SB calls $14.00 Turn: ($46) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players) SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $36.00</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $72.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $174.65</font>, SB calls $102.65 River: ($395.30) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In) Pot Size: $395.30 ($3 Rake) Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter) SB: $84.11 BB: $143.88 UTG: $231.30 CO: $173.66 Hero (BTN): $197.00 Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5 Players) UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $4.00</font>, Hero calls $4.00, SB folds, BB calls $2.00 Flop: ($13) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players) BB checks, CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $10.00</font>, BB folds, CO calls $10.00 Turn: ($33) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players) CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $24.00</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $48.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $183.00</font>, CO calls all-in for $111.66 Uncalled bet of $23.34 returned to Hero River: ($352.32) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In) Pot Size: $352.32 ($2 Rake) Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter) SB: $177.00 BB: $101.00 UTG: $208.35 MP: $169.60 Hero (CO): $299.90 BTN: $256.80 Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players) UTG folds, MP calls $2.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $10.00</font>, 3 folds, MP calls $8.00 Flop: ($23) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">MP bets $8.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $32.00</font>, MP calls $24.00 Turn: ($87) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">MP bets $20.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $257.90</font>, MP calls all-in for $107.60 Uncalled bet of $130.30 returned to Hero River: ($342.20) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In) Pot Size: $342.20 ($3 Rake) Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter) SB: $103.33 BB: $154.39 UTG: $451.69 CO: $157.53 Hero (BTN): $395.55 Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players) 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8.00</font>, SB folds, BB calls $6.00 Flop: ($17) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $12.00</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $30.00</font>, Hero calls $18.00 Turn: ($77) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players) <font color="red">BB bets all-in for $116.39</font>, Hero calls $116.39 River: ($309.78) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In) Pot Size: $309.78 ($2.50 Rake) |
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#1296
09-08-2007, 10:04 PM
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Re: SSNL POKER [cheese] thread SEPT
last one is plain terrible. the AKs hand is standard and the KK hand is standard.
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#1298
09-08-2007, 10:13 PM
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Re: SSNL POKER [cheese] thread SEPT
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OMFG I'M PLAYING LIKE [censored] TODAY RAISING VALUE BETS AND CALLING SEMIBLUFFS [/ QUOTE ] I didn't know God was censored on here. Oh, I guess it's not. |
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#1299
09-08-2007, 10:19 PM
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Re: SSNL POKER [cheese] thread SEPT
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[ QUOTE ] OMFG I'M PLAYING LIKE [censored] TODAY RAISING VALUE BETS AND CALLING SEMIBLUFFS [/ QUOTE ] I didn't know God was censored on here. Oh, I guess it's not. [/ QUOTE ] only the way i spell it |
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