cash out curse on Stars

[realjaydub]

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I think realjaydub thinks that anything that happens out of the U.S. cannot be trusted.

I'm almost ashamed to be in the same country as him, and I apologize to all non-Americans who have to deal with his seemingly prejudicial attitude.

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God damn you a retard too.

When did I say anything about another country?

Canadian laws don't pertain to me unless I'm in Canada now do they?

LOL at predujicial attitude.

I've traveled the world and always carry the utmost respect in the land i'm in.

I don't live under Canadian laws in America end of story retard.

Now you going to say something about me hating jews next?

[DMoogle]

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realjaydub, why haven't you addressed my question on why they would rig a tournament hand (without a one word answer) and my comment that I've never personally had a downswing after withdrawing on any of the multiple sites I've played on?

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Well count yourself lucky.

Why would they? Give the money to the fish so they will keep playing. Better players will take more beats and it evens out the money so they can retain rake from x number of people instead of y number of people...x > y

ducy?

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Count myself lucky? Over 240,000 hands I've played... and it's luck that I'm not doomswitched on any site I've played on? That's a pretty weak explanation. Your whole argument is that doomswitches/rigged sites take away the luck from poker so that good players lose or at least lose more than they would in a non-rigged game.

Also, why is it that the biggest winners on this site (not $ wise, but at the stakes they play at) are very good players who don't believe it's rigged, not total donkeys?

[Josem]

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I'm not a Canadian so shove your laws where the sun doesn't shine.

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Huh? I never said you were Canadian. I'm not Canadian either - I've never even been to Canada.

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If Pokerstars is rigged, it's certainly not against the law in the USA retard.

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You continue to lie like a lying liar that lies.

Your US Department of Justice has a whole page devoted to frauds perpetrated over the internet at http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/fraud/internet/

The US FBI has a site online at http://www.ifccfbi.gov/ where you can report your suspected internet fraud.

You need to do this - or to stop making your unsubstantiated accusations.

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ONCE AGAIN MORON....The USA does not have a gaming commission that oversees online poker...

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This is irrelevant. They have a police service that polices fraud.

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Rigging the RNG is NOT AGAINST THE LAW.

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Yes, I believe it would be. Someone who is rigging a RNG is quite obviously:
a) misleading customers
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b) obtaining a financial advantage by doing this

While different jurisdictions will have different wordings, that would have to fall under almost anyone's definition of fraud.

[realjaydub]

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realjaydub, why haven't you addressed my question on why they would rig a tournament hand (without a one word answer) and my comment that I've never personally had a downswing after withdrawing on any of the multiple sites I've played on?

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Well count yourself lucky.

Why would they? Give the money to the fish so they will keep playing. Better players will take more beats and it evens out the money so they can retain rake from x number of people instead of y number of people...x > y

ducy?

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Count myself lucky? Over 240,000 hands I've played... and it's luck that I'm not doomswitched on any site I've played on? That's a pretty weak explanation. Your whole argument is that doomswitches/rigged sites take away the luck from poker so that good players lose or at least lose more than they would in a non-rigged game.

Also, why is it that the biggest winners on this site (not $ wise, but at the stakes they play at) are very good players who don't believe it's rigged, not total donkeys?

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Then it should be easy to show me proof now wouldn't idiot?

It's funny how the two or three retards here are getting so worked up about me saying there's a chance the rng is flawed.

Why are you so defensive???? Sounds like I might be on to something.

Oh btw, lilholdem the gansta tard....he one of their "bigger winners" and he belives it's rigged.

[Josem]

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Canadian laws don't pertain to me unless I'm in Canada now do they?

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No one ever claimed they did.

[DMoogle]

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I think realjaydub thinks that anything that happens out of the U.S. cannot be trusted.

I'm almost ashamed to be in the same country as him, and I apologize to all non-Americans who have to deal with his seemingly prejudicial attitude.

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God damn you a retard too.

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Well that sure is uncalled for.

I was simply stating that, from my observations, some of your (very hostile, IMHO) retorts address the fact that the companies that check to make sure sites are not in fact rigged are located outside of the U.S., and it seems that you hold the belief that if they were located and regulated in the U.S., then it would be legit. It seems to me that you're overlooking the fact that there are regulations in the countries that these sites reside in.

[realjaydub]

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I'm not a Canadian so shove your laws where the sun doesn't shine.

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Huh? I never said you were Canadian. I'm not Canadian either - I've never even been to Canada.

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If Pokerstars is rigged, it's certainly not against the law in the USA retard.

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You continue to lie like a lying liar that lies.

Your US Department of Justice has a whole page devoted to frauds perpetrated over the internet at http://www.usdoj.gov/criminal/fraud/internet/

The US FBI has a site online at http://www.ifccfbi.gov/ where you can report your suspected internet fraud.

You need to do this - or to stop making your unsubstantiated accusations.

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ONCE AGAIN MORON....The USA does not have a gaming commission that oversees online poker...

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This is irrelevant. They have a police service that polices fraud.

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Rigging the RNG is NOT AGAINST THE LAW.

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Yes, I believe it would be. Someone who is rigging a RNG is quite obviously:
a) misleading customers
and
b) obtaining a financial advantage by doing this

While different jurisdictions will have different wordings, that would have to fall under almost anyone's definition of fraud.

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lol I'm speechless.

Call the police and report them then Josem, see how hard they laugh in your face.

I'll say it one more time. Rigging the rng is not against the law. The USA doesn't have juristiction over pokerstars. WE HAVE NO GAMING COMMISSION THAT REGULATES ONLINE POKER.

Enough with the cops retard.

[MicroBob]

I only read part of the last few posts above mine. Don't really think it's worth catching up on this thread.

But I just wanted to jump in here and say that I've been to Canada and observed all the laws as I knew them while I was there.
Canada is a nifty country and I think their money looks way cooler than American money.
I hope this helps you guys settle whatever the hell it is you're arguing about.

[DMoogle]

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Oh btw, lilholdem the gansta tard....he one of their "bigger winners" and he belives it's rigged.

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OK now I'm convinced you've been leveling us from the start.

[Josem]

However, I've just had a look through the laws of the state of New York, and a brief non-expert reading would suggest that rigging a RNG for a gambling service would breach the following laws:

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§ 190.20 False advertising.
A person is guilty of false advertising when, with intent to promote
the sale or to increase the consumption of property or services, he
makes or causes to be made a false or misleading statement in any
advertisement or publishes any advertisement in violation of chapter
three of the act of congress entitled "Truth in Lending Act" and the
regulations thereunder, as such act and regulations may from time to
time be amended, addressed to the public or to a substantial number of
persons; except that, in any prosecution under this section, it is an
affirmative defense that the allegedly false or misleading statement was
not knowingly or recklessly made or caused to be made.
False advertising is a class A misdemeanor.

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§ 190.65 Scheme to defraud in the first degree.
1. A person is guilty of a scheme to defraud in the first degree when
he: (a) engages in a scheme constituting a systematic ongoing course of
conduct with intent to defraud ten or more persons or to obtain property
from ten or more persons by false or fraudulent pretenses,
representations or promises, and so obtains property from one or more of
such persons; or (b) engages in a scheme constituting a systematic
ongoing course of conduct with intent to defraud more than one person or
to obtain property from more than one person by false or fraudulent
pretenses, representations or promises, and so obtains property with a
value in excess of one thousand dollars from one or more such persons.
2. In any prosecution under this section, it shall be necessary to
prove the identity of at least one person from whom the defendant so
obtained property, but it shall not be necessary to prove the identity
of any other intended victim.
Scheme to defraud in the first degree is a class E felony.


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I don't think that there is any credible doubt that similar crimes would exist in other US states.