Annie Duke Interview Controversy regarding Ladies WSOP event.

[grdred944]

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"The beauty of the WSOP is that anyone can enter and anyone can win, and Sally proved that fact again tonight." Not everyone could enter the event that Sally won. Sure it was nice for her but when she shows off her bracelet, do you think she'll say "well, it was just the ladies event".

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WTG Sally.

[PITTM]

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Think of things as if you were a woman. Would you really be all that comfortable trying out a game that is a bunch of loud, generally douchey males who will be as sexist as humanly possible while you are at the table?


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I truly believe your intent here was not to be condescending but that is the impression I am left with if you really believe that should be the justification for having a ladies only event
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Your assumption (at least from your comments) is that women enter poker as a hobby -- some sort of activity primarily motivated by a social need. I could be wrong but that is my read on it.

As to Annie -- read her history and how douchy she has acted to men at the table on a fairly regular basis. She is not my favorite person but on this point she is on-target.

It is totally sexist and demeaning to have a ladies only bracelet event.

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My only assumption is that people are more likely to get involved in a group activity if the people in that group are pleasant as opposed to [censored]. I make no other assumptions really. Of course it is sexist to have a womens bracelet event, but there is a reason for it.

[killsadie]

if women wanna have women only events, then they cant play in anything but women only events. the end.

[Mitch Evans]

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My only assumption is that people are more likely to get involved in a group activity if the people in that group are pleasant as opposed to [censored]. I make no other assumptions really.

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If that were the case, there wouldn't be any poker games. Unless you're saying that men don't mind dealing with azzholes when trying something new, but women are too fragile to deal with male azzholes? Women deal with condescending, womanizing, sexist azzholes everyday. And from the ones i've seen can take care of themselves at the table with no problem. So there's really only two ways to look at the women's event:

1) Women are inferior players, and it's nice to give them a shot at a bracelet- sexist.
2) Women are incapable of handling themselves in a foul, male-dominated, endeavor- sexist.

[Crane]

There's a simple solution to all of this. Do what Amarillo Slim did at the Super Bowl of poker.

Any man who wants to play in the ladies only tournament can do so if he wears a dress.

Three did.

[CincyLady]

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There's a simple solution to all of this. Do what Amarillo Slim did at the Super Bowl of poker.

Any man who wants to play in the ladies only tournament can do so if he wears a dress. However that said, only a few over the years have acutally pushed the issue and signed up and played in WOE.

Three did.

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Actually, if any man wanted to sign up for a Ladies only event, legally, no one could stop him from doing so, nor any casino refuse him entry, dress or no dress.

As for the guys in drag playing in a ladies event, here is a link below to that story (with pictures if I remember right!):

http://www.tiltboys.com/html/trip-re...x-stigmas-out/

[The Stranger]

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My only assumption is that people are more likely to get involved in a group activity if the people in that group are pleasant as opposed to [censored]. I make no other assumptions really.

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If that were the case, there wouldn't be any poker games. Unless you're saying that men don't mind dealing with azzholes when trying something new, but women are too fragile to deal with male azzholes? Women deal with condescending, womanizing, sexist azzholes everyday. And from the ones i've seen can take care of themselves at the table with no problem. So there's really only two ways to look at the women's event:

1) Women are inferior players, and it's nice to give them a shot at a bracelet- sexist.
2) Women are incapable of handling themselves in a foul, male-dominated, endeavor- sexist.

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the rudest, most disgusting people I've played against are women.

Mostly the Bike and Commerce

[Quadstriker]

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#2 If men suddenly started a Mens Only Poker League, the women would cry and scream about sexism.

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I doubt it.

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Augusta says hello.

[Johnny Hughes]

I am for having a Women's Tournament, as they do now.

Years back, I would arrive at the World Series to play the
cash games the same weekend as the Women's tournament. I never watched much poker but I'd watch that. It was seven stud which was better to watch if you couldn't see hole cards. The women would all dress up. The small amount of press would all be there. They were very photogenic and great at interviews. There would be some little ceremony and
they'd give them all a rose. It was all very friendly and chatty. They knew how to have fun and be courteous.

I watched the final table of the main even when Barbara Enright was there. She was shortstacked but she kept moving in and then getting up and walking around while her opponent studied. At the time, I'd never really seen anyone do that, leave the table. The whole crowd that cheered were for Barbara.

For the small number of women in the tournaments, they cash very well. The top women players are just top players. I have played with Annie Duke, long ago. She is a very good, if obnoxious, poker player. I'd bet she could beat nearly all of the poker players on here ragging her at heads up no-limit Hold 'em.

[Moose]

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I love these Women Only leagues and what not.

#1 Ladies always want to be treated as equals. So why not play with the men in sports?

#2 If men suddenly started a Mens Only Poker League, the women would cry and scream about sexism. But it's ok for them to do it because they have been treated unfairly for the last century? Bullocks.

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#1> Women haven't wanted "mere" equality in my lifetime. They are generally in favor of any affirmative action that gets more women into places (in this case, the winners circle) that they cannot get to by their merit. But they only want this action for positive things. Have you ever heard a feminist argue that women deserve easier qualification standards to get into death row, despite an obvious anti-woman bias (20% of capital crimes yet 2% of executions according to deathrowinfo.org)

#2> One local casino started running a "men's only" event on the same night as the "women's only" event. To hear women complain that this event "took away tables and dealers from their tournament" was hilarious.