Negreanu lumps Raymer w/ Moneymaker & Gold

[DonkSlayer]

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"So I said this, and then he made fun of me, so I came back and said I'm better than that and I showed him. Mommy, Daniel made fun of me!"

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If I FYP, doesn't it say what this whole thread is about?

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No because shot at Raymer came before shot at Daniel. Raymer was just defending himself. I agree that this site comes off as a Raymer love-fest, but I think DN should shut his pie hole sometimes and given Raymers recent deep ME he shouldn't be lumped in as just a luckbox.

[DonkSlayer]

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No because shot at Raymer came before shot at Daniel. Raymer was just defending himself. I agree that this site comes off as a Raymer love-fest, but I think DN should shut his pie hole sometimes and given Raymers recent deep ME he shouldn't be lumped in as just a luckbox.

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I agree that Raymer isn't a luckbox...I know he grinds it out and is successful day in and day out. DN should probably just avoid mentioning Raymer anything but passively...I'm fine with him being in the "not great for the WPT structure" category, but the introduction jab might've been a little much.

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So they don't like each other, who cares.

[karlkrak]

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So they don't like each other, who cares.

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The entire NVG forum and pretty much no one else.

[True North]

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So they don't like each other, who cares.

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The entire NVG forum and pretty much no one else.

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Don't forget the fanboys at FCP.

[Yimdim]

Are you still accepting bets for WPT or WSOP main event winners? I will bet $100 on Phil Ivey for a WSOP event this year, he is due don't you think? I know this is no million dollar bet, but if i could afford that I would be playing next to you!

[inferno]

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So they don't like each other, who cares.

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The entire NVG forum and pretty much no one else.

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Don't forget the fanboys at FCP.

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and the burned kid

[True North]

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So they don't like each other, who cares.

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The entire NVG forum and pretty much no one else.

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Don't forget the fanboys at FCP.

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and the burned kid

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I'm trying to forget the burned kid.

[Rushmore]

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meh whatever, it's pretty douchey but they all played well in some respects.

moneymaker luckboxed it up but gold played the big stack relatively well besides being an assclown.


raymer was/is solid- no need to hate dn.

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Gold got lucky far more than Moneymaker did.

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I'm pretty sure Gold never got 90% of his chips in drawing to 2 outs postflop.

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You don't know that, neither did Moneymaker ( I believe it was ~60% of his tourney-leading chips at the time), and Moneymaker made a fine lay that would have made many hands that beat his lay down.

Jeez, why doesn't everyone talk about how stupid Chris Ferguson was getting AIPF with A9o and having an even BIGGER suckout than Moneymaker did on the river FOR THE TITLE! Oh, I forgot, because he's brilliant and one of the best tourney players alive. Moneymaker's not, but the endless bashing of the 88 vs AA hand really just shows how stupid many people in poker are.

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Most valuable post in the thread. Thank you.