NL Bots on Full Tilt

[Suigin406]

yea, at work now, but i'll check my stats on these guys...just from playing with him, i remember full tilt's stats, but didn't make the connection to the others...

[happyhappyhappy]

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Basically what I learned from catching up overnight is that:

1) nlnut has a set system and he and his friends have clung to that system with a rigid discipline over several hundred thousand hands. This system is so rigid that it apparently results in alarmingly similar statistics among different players over large samples of hands.

2) Despite discussing hands with one another, nlnut and his friends express no desire to divert from their set system at any time or adjust in such a way that they could adjust their winrate. They are comfortable with their current earn.

3) They are happy at 1/2 and express no desire to ever move up to higher stakes.

So... in other words you have this obscene ability to maintain strict discipline over a quarter million hands without ever allowing your emotions or fatigue or any other environmental factor to affect your play, and you have no desire to make more money than you currently do. Whether you are bots (I think there is botting going on here, the river bet numbers seal the deal for me) or not, you people are not humans.

Am I missing something?

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As well as the fact that they say they take time to talk poker and make well thought out decisions? Is this not completely contradictory to such a rigid system?

[1p0kerboy]

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Am I missing something?


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The suspected botter has created poker programs and posted them on these forums.

[1p0kerboy]

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As well as the fact that they say they take time to talk poker and make well thought out decisions? Is this not completely contradictory to such a rigid system?


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QFMFT.

[pomhat]

if i was under investigation i'm pretty sure i could round up 3 mates to vouch that its them playing..

hell, anyone with half a brain would correctly get your mates involved beforehand to setup the accounts and take a small cut for letting the organiser use their id's..

the fact that one person involved thought the investigation was going on for THREE TIMES LONGER than it really did speaks volumes, as does the pretty much identical stats that any single player would find almost impossible to replicate over three 100k sample sizes

i don't play on fulltilt so this doesn't affect me all that much.. simplest explanation is usually the correct one and in this instance it does not involve 4 people of average intelligence sitting around high-fiving each other over their nit "textbook" playing

fulltilt probably couldn't prove a bot was being used and couldn't disprove the sweatshop excuse, so they continue to let them play.. however, in much the same way that you cannot prove without doubt we weren't put here by aliens, everyone with half a clue knows scientologists are full of [censored].

[TonyDanza]

OP has a lot of compelling circumstantial evidence and Chuck has offered a seemingly reasonable explanation. Chuck has obviously developed a pre and post flop system that is simple enough that an average poker player can beat 1-2NL for 1.5PTBB/100. He is also able to at least modify scripts that enable him to multi-table more efficiently. Despite those computer abilities, humans are playing on these accounts and making automated decisions rather than programming a computer to run these scripts. This way profits can be shared amongst 3 people rather than keeping all for himself. I guess that makes sense.

[antisocialgrace]

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OP has a lot of compelling circumstantial evidence and Chuck has offered a seemingly reasonable explanation. Chuck has obviously developed a pre and post flop system that is simple enough that an average poker player can beat 1-2NL for 1.5PTBB/100. He is also able to at least modify scripts that enable him to multi-table more efficiently. Despite those computer abilities, humans are playing on these accounts and making automated decisions rather than programming a computer to run these scripts. This way profits can be shared amongst 3 people rather than keeping all for himself. I guess that makes sense.

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I don't even want to try to fathom how many of Kaufman's practical jokes you were a victim of.

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[DMoogle]

Took an hour and a half of catch up from last night...

I'm looking very forward to seeing your guys' setup TODAY (i.e. you posting a picture today). It isn't going to "prove" much, but it'll definitely make me more inclined to think that you guys could quite possibly be telling the truth after all.