So I had a date tonight

[kevin017]

i have less experience than everyone else posting, but i'm also a nice guy, and maybe can offer a different perspective.

the first girl i ever really dated was early in college. she was the roommate of a high school friend of mine. after a little while, i decided i liked her. one day when everyone was going to eat at the dining hall, she said she was staying back to study and would eat a cup of noodle. i said i was too, we talked for a while, kinda hit it off. A weekend or two later, we went out to a party, got drunk, came back and fooled around. The next day she "broke up (or whatever)' because she thought I just wanted to fool around with her. The next weekend we fooled around fri/sat night anyway, due mainly to alcohol. For the next couple months we were dating, i was kinda flirting with her roommate (my friend from hs). It took like 4 months before she even realized I liked her a lot. We've actually been dating ever since, but that's beside the point, the point is i got in her pants.

Her early skepticism of whether or not i was into her, alcohol, and hanging out with her in a relaxed and fun way was all crucial to me getting with her, and during none of it did i have to be creepy, overly sappy/romantic, or anything other than my normal nice guy self. AFTER you get to know them, and get close to them, then you can be romantic or whatever you want, but if you do it before then, they'll just be creeped out by how overly attached you are and how much effort you're putting into getting someone you barely know.

[ifckladyluck]

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i have less experience than everyone else posting, but i'm also a nice guy, and maybe can offer a different perspective.

the first girl i ever really dated was early in college. she was the roommate of a high school friend of mine. after a little while, i decided i liked her. one day when everyone was going to eat at the dining hall, she said she was staying back to study and would eat a cup of noodle. i said i was too, we talked for a while, kinda hit it off. A weekend or two later, we went out to a party, got drunk, came back and fooled around. The next day she "broke up (or whatever)' because she thought I just wanted to fool around with her. The next weekend we fooled around fri/sat night anyway, due mainly to alcohol. For the next couple months we were dating, i was kinda flirting with her roommate (my friend from hs). It took like 4 months before she even realized I liked her a lot. We've actually been dating ever since, but that's beside the point, the point is i got in her pants.

Her early skepticism of whether or not i was into her, alcohol, and hanging out with her in a relaxed and fun way was all crucial to me getting with her, and during none of it did i have to be creepy, overly sappy/romantic, or anything other than my normal nice guy self. AFTER you get to know them, and get close to them, then you can be romantic or whatever you want, but if you do it before then, they'll just be creeped out by how overly attached you are and how much effort you're putting into getting someone you barely know.

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are you a virgin?

[PokerDiva]

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1. NEVER pay for anything, it kinda looks like you are insecure and think you have to buy her things so she can hang out with you.
2. NEVER try to make it look or feel like a date. Girls don't like date.
4. NEVER let her win. Girls dont f*** guys they can beat.


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LOL you're not very bright are you?

[EPiPeN11]

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Honestly goofy, you seem like a nice guy so I'm gonna give you some advice.

1. NEVER pay for anything, it kinda looks like you are insecure and think you have to buy her things so she can hang out with you.
2. NEVER try to make it look or feel like a date. Girls don't like date. It's formal, it sucks, it's awkward, etc... Girls like to have fun.
3. Dinner is not a good date. It's boring.
4. NEVER let her win. Girls dont f*** guys they can beat.
5. Tease her. Make fun of her. Treat her like she's your little sister that you love, but like to make fun of. Be playful!!!!!!
6. You try to go for a kiss!!! ARE YOU [censored] RETARDED??? You can't kiss a girl if you havent been touching her at all all night, its gonna be so awkward. Start by holding her hands, hugging, touch girls when you talk to them. It's possible to do it without being creepy, and that's the way to go.
6. If you start touching a girl as soon as you meet her AND you feel comfortabe with it(it takes practice) she is gonna LOVE it. Touching and telling her she's hot or sexy (not in a creepy way) will make sure that you don't get into those "friend" situation. If you think a girl has gorgeous eyes, keep it for yourself, she's probably heard it 1k times. Tell her she looks sexy instead.

PM me for other questions.

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A+ Advice, Goofy listen to this man he knows what he is talking about except #1 if u have lots of money it's dick not to pay.

[G Street]

A+ Advice, Goofy listen to this man he knows what he is talking about except #1 if u have lots of money it's dick not to pay.

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I think you're both right to a degree only pay for obvious things since she's already out w/ you. I think a drink is fine... But do not go overboard, money doesn't mean much if you've got other things to offer, tangible or not.

I've blown it w/ enough women in my nice guy days to know. You gotta get your head out of this "nice guy" thing, you can have sex and still be a nice guy, Women understand that men like(I'd say need) to have sex, it's okay, you're not the Big bad Wolf. I bet you'll never be a sleaze either, but If you want to eat you've got to kill. I know some of this stuff sounds cold man, but Figure out what you want.

You've got Pua on over your avatar ( I realize it's a joke) do you want that? or are you looking for love? I'm sure your indecisiveness is palpable around these women and that comes off as soft, most women don't want soft, even from a nice guy.

Don't worry you'll get there, just decide.

[pr0crast]

Some good advice and some bad advice in spacebetween's post.

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Honestly goofy, you seem like a nice guy so I'm gonna give you some advice.

1. NEVER pay for anything, it kinda looks like you are insecure and think you have to buy her things so she can hang out with you.

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This is completely wrong. Of course it will depend on the girl, but some girls will think you are incapable of taking care of them if you can't as much as pay for a meal, and some will be insulted if you try to pay for the meal because it takes away their independence or something. In most cases though, pay for the meal, and if she argues tell her she can pay the tip and leave it at that.
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2. NEVER try to make it look or feel like a date. Girls don't like date. It's formal, it sucks, it's awkward, etc...

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This is one hell of a sweeping generalization.
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3. Dinner is not a good date. It's boring.

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You are sort of right, DOING stuff is often the best thing for a first date. But if you are at a stage when you are trying to get to know someone better (is this person gf material?), dinner is a fantastic date. Better yet, cook the dinner yourself and she will be very very impressed.
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6. You try to go for a kiss!!! ARE YOU [censored] RETARDED??? You can't kiss a girl if you havent been touching her at all all night, its gonna be so awkward. Start by holding her hands, hugging, touch girls when you talk to them. It's possible to do it without being creepy, and that's the way to go.

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Right on. Don't set yourself up for failure.

Some things I would add:

-If you can't visualize yourself being with this girl, then you won't. You have to exude confidence and certainty.

-Dating is like poker. The best players know how to use initiative and be aggressive to scoop up more than their fair share of pots, even when their cards aren't that great. They also know that they won't win every pot, so they play a lot of hands. And when they get a bad beat, they know that its ultimately necessary for that to happen for them to make $ in the long run.

-Don't let yourself become emotionally involved or attached to someone until AT LEAST the 3rd date. Having a 1st date go badly should make you upset for a maximum of 20 minutes.

edit: And good lord, don't write letters like that ever again. My GF used to have a stalker that wrote letters exactly like that. I had to set him straight.

[beavens]

way too depressing for BBV dude [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[soweak.]

I dont know how this thread can get better, its already been semi-trainwrecked.

I think OP should get this girl to visit him while he's in Las Vegas, then have GA sleep with her immediately.

That'd be classic.

[bmwguy525]

Hey Fluff I don't write creepy letters, wanna make out next weekend? I'll be down that way

[goofyballer]

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Hey Fluff I don't have any modicum of romanticism, wanna give goofy awesome girl advice? He'll be in Vegas

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