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Old 05-22-2007, 01:50 AM
MuresanForMVP MuresanForMVP is offline
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After tonights win over the Red Sox, the Yankees now have a <font color="red">+31 run differential and their record is 4 games under .500. </font> They are running bad. There is no reason to think they cannot easily contend for the wildcard. Also, coming back from 9.5 games in May would not be a record so let's just stop with them being done and enjoy the season.

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can we plz plz plz plz stop with the "running bad" babble? I've seen that used in about 300 of Karak's posts in the past couple months whenever anything doesn't happen the way the Yankees want it to. Playing bad is not equal to running bad.

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Looks like running bad to me.

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yea but everytime Matsui grounds into a DP you can just feel the Yankee homers rushing to their keyboards to post "ZOMG WE RUN SOOOOOO BAADDDD!!" It's just funny and aggravating at the same time to hear it coming from Yankees fans.

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Does red get your attention? Because bold obviously doesn't.

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No habla ingles.

That's a wonderful stat Noodleman, but I was referring more to Yanks' fans bitching about them running bad in instances where it clearly doesnt apply. Abreu is playing like ass, and so Is Rivera. Great, but Rivera having an 8 ERA and blowing another save isn't really a function of "running bad". So when he does indeed blow another it gets annoying to see NY homers complaining about it as a clear example of the negative side of variance. Cano grounding into a rally-killing DP isn't "running bad". Hughes injuring his hammy, starters getting injured by batted balls, these are examples of running bad.

That's all I'm saying, no need to be a dip [censored] smartass about it
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Old 05-22-2007, 02:01 AM
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Basically M4MVP, if you score more runs than you allow, you win more games than you lose. The Yankees have done the former, yet not achieved the latter. Bad luck.
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Old 05-22-2007, 02:05 AM
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Basically M4MVP, if you score more runs than you allow, you win more games than you lose. The Yankees have done the former, yet not achieved the latter. Bad luck.

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Well clearly this is a case of A-Rod turning in 20 RBI efforts when the yanks are already up by 10 runs.
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Old 05-22-2007, 02:07 AM
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Basically M4MVP, if you score more runs than you allow, you win more games than you lose. The Yankees have done the former, yet not achieved the latter. Bad luck.

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Well clearly this is a case of A-Rod turning in 20 RBI efforts when the yanks are already up by 10 runs.

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A myth.
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Old 05-22-2007, 02:10 AM
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Basically M4MVP, if you score more runs than you allow, you win more games than you lose. The Yankees have done the former, yet not achieved the latter. Bad luck.

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Well clearly this is a case of A-Rod turning in 20 RBI efforts when the yanks are already up by 10 runs.

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A myth.

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A joke.
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Old 05-22-2007, 02:18 AM
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Default Re: Are the Yankees done for the year?

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(1)Basically M4MVP, if you score more runs than you allow, you win more games than you lose. (2)The Yankees have done the former, yet not achieved the latter. Bad luck.

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This is true in some abstract mathematical sense, yes. If your average runs scored &gt; average runs allowed you should average more wins than losses. However when a 6-0 game turns into a 12-0 game, do those last 6 runs count the same as the first six? You are likely facing a scrub pitcher being left out there to eat innings, the other team's star players will be rested, etc.

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(1) If you average more runs per game than you allow, you will average more wins than losses. (2) The Yankees have done this, however they score a lot of runs in blowouts and struggle to score runs in tight games. Some bad luck, some problems with your overly mathematical approach to baseball.
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Old 05-22-2007, 02:24 AM
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(1)Basically M4MVP, if you score more runs than you allow, you win more games than you lose. (2)The Yankees have done the former, yet not achieved the latter. Bad luck.

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This is true in some abstract mathematical sense, yes. If your average runs scored &gt; average runs allowed you should average more wins than losses. However when a 6-0 game turns into a 12-0 game, do those last 6 runs count the same as the first six? You are likely facing a scrub pitcher being left out there to eat innings, the other team's star players will be rested, etc.

Your statement should read

(1) If you average more runs per game than you allow, you will average more wins than losses. (2) The Yankees have done this, however they score a lot of runs in blowouts and struggle to score runs in tight games. Some bad luck, some problems with your overly mathematical approach to baseball.

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Are you suggesting the Yankees are not clutch? They aren't not clutch. Just a tad unlucky so far this season.
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Old 05-22-2007, 02:26 AM
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Default Re: Are the Yankees done for the year?

This is a very funny thread.
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Old 05-22-2007, 02:27 AM
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Default Re: Are the Yankees done for the year?

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(1)Basically M4MVP, if you score more runs than you allow, you win more games than you lose. (2)The Yankees have done the former, yet not achieved the latter. Bad luck.

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This is true in some abstract mathematical sense, yes. If your average runs scored &gt; average runs allowed you should average more wins than losses. However when a 6-0 game turns into a 12-0 game, do those last 6 runs count the same as the first six? You are likely facing a scrub pitcher being left out there to eat innings, the other team's star players will be rested, etc.

Your statement should read

(1) If you average more runs per game than you allow, you will average more wins than losses. (2) The Yankees have done this, however they score a lot of runs in blowouts and struggle to score runs in tight games. Some bad luck, some problems with your overly mathematical approach to baseball.

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Are you suggesting the Yankees are not clutch? They aren't not clutch. Just a tad unlucky so far this season.

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No, but I think that the run differential can be skewed by the fact that it's easier to score runs when you're already up by 5+ later in games. The better your offense is (like the Yankees) the more this will affect the run differential.

edit: and I don't think "the Yankees" are clutch... Jeter is clutch, A-Rod is rather notably unclutch and guys like Abreu, Matsui, Cano, etc are an average level of clutchness
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Old 05-22-2007, 02:37 AM
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There are very few batters I would rather have not at bat for my team in the clutch than bobby abreu. he is really devastating on the teams that he plays because his total lack of passion rubs off on people, even though his skills and numbers are usually good.

edit - this makes little sense, but abreu is not clutch.
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