sports where you can 100% outplay your opponent and lose?

[Kimbell175113]

What are you saying, gusmahler? I understand that apparently you mean something more than "rushes exist," but am not getting the mechanism by which this occurs (unless you're saying "I don't know the mechanism either, but there is evidence that shows it happens," which is possible, I guess.)

[iSTRONG]

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multiple strikes in a row is a function of luck and repetition, not skill

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lol

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Don't lol too much... google "hot hand fallacy" first.

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For those who are too lazy to google:

Gilovich, T., Vallone, R., & Tversky, A. (1985). The hot hand in
basketball: On the misperception of random sequences. Cognitive
Psychology, 17, 295-314.

Link to paper

[ilya]

IMO, as long as the competitors know the rules ahead of time & the contest isn't decided by judges & there's no built-in element of luck, this is impossible by definition. for example , scoring more points than your opponent in a tennis match does not by itself amount to outplaying your opponent, as the winner is decided differently and both players know this in advance.

[Kneel B4 Zod]

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there's no built-in element of luck

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"luck" is the tricky concept here, and may be the wrong word. "unrepeatable skill" may be better.

for instance, basketball team down by 2 points, .1 seconds left. guys has the ball on his own baseline, does an overhand football throw all the way down the court, and makes a 1/100 shot. was it lucky he made it?

I mean, there is some skill involved, but at the same time he's almost never going to make that shot.

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the american presidential elections

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doesn't "sport" imply an outcome that isn't pre-determined?

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[Hollywade]

I can't think of a single sport in which this cannot happen. In one game, of course, anything can happen. You can play exceptionally well and still lose. You can also play horribly and win (think Chicago Bears offense vs. Arizona, 2006). However, I think all sports reward superior skill in the long run.

[NT!]

lol at thinking this is an OOT thread

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What about poker?

[BobOjedaFan]

Fact 1) Any sport can come down to a call at the games end that decides it one way or another
Fact 2) One team always played a little bit better than the other
Fact 3) This close call could always go either way

Conclusion: In any sport you can outplay your opponent and lose

[tpir]

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multiple strikes in a row is a function of luck and repetition, not skill

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lol

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Don't lol too much... google "hot hand fallacy" first.

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You are reading too much sense into what he said.