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Old 11-03-2007, 12:21 AM
_dave_ _dave_ is offline
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Default Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it

So,

It would seem Sal has been accused/tried/convicted of botting by FTP.

Sal: are you running anything that may have triggered a false positive? AHK / AutoIT / Vista voice control etc?
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Old 11-03-2007, 12:29 AM
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Default Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it

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So,

It would seem Sal has been accused/tried/convicted of botting by FTP.

Sal: are you running anything that may have triggered a false positive? AHK / AutoIT / Vista voice control etc?

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We'll need to see the e-mail from Sal first.
Previously she thought it might have been related to a really bad player she won big from and that maybe the money she won came from a stolen credit-card and ended up looking like potential chip-dumping.

All through this drama she had no idea if she was accused of botting or chip-dumping or what.
Given the length of time for the investigation some of us were kind of assuming they were waiting on some other players' ID's and some charges to clear.

Perhaps FT is accusing her of BOTH botting and chip-dumping and it was a big combination that led to the super-lengthy investigation.
Still, lets just wait to hear from Sal before we start looking at the chip-dumping scenario or whether it could have been botting false-positives or what.

Hopefully she at least has been told SOMETHING about what she supposedly did by now.
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Old 11-03-2007, 12:51 AM
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Default Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it

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So,

It would seem Sal has been accused/tried/convicted of botting by FTP.

Sal: are you running anything that may have triggered a false positive? AHK / AutoIT / Vista voice control etc?

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I have nothing on my computer that would have triggered this kind of a response. I have done nothing that FTP has accused me of. I am prepared to go to any lengths to prove that I am innocent of these charges.

I do not use pokertracker nor any other datamining programs on my computer. I have never used any artifical software.

I have asked FT/Mike Haven to contact me as well. I feel if they are going to accept information from sites such as FTP, then they should have dialouge with their accused posters as well. Do you not agree? Does FTP run a monopoly?
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Old 11-03-2007, 12:23 AM
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Default Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it

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So did they forward any info to a mod that can confirm at least whether there is any basis behind FTP's actions?

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Yeah!

3 hours ago, FTPSean said he'd be willing to share any info with mods. None have yet posted in this thread with any confirmation.


That doesn't bode well for FTP.....




Of course, as was just demonstrated, thinking more or less of people because they didn't reply instantly is absurd. Let's remember that the real world doesn't move on internet discussion forum speed.

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I don't think that aspect reflects badly on FT.
Sean said he would be willing to share the info with a mod.
That doesn't mean he has done that yet. He is likely waiting to hear from the mod that he is okay with that.

He doesn't want to suddenly put Mike Haven right into the middle of this mess without even having asked him.

For the FT/Mike Haven side of the story I think that's going to require Mike's approval and for that he kind of needs to actually be online which he likely isn't right now.
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Old 11-03-2007, 12:27 AM
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Default Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it

I was being sarcastic that you guys thought that because sillysal didn't reply "fast enough" that she was more likely to be guilty.

Obviously, it is self-evident that the 3 hour delay isn't a bad reflection on FTP; Similarly, it is self-evident that the 1 (2?) hour delay by Sillysal is not a bad reflection on Sillysal.

While the IG forum is serious business, there are other things in the world that can hold someone's attention.
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Old 11-03-2007, 12:24 AM
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Default Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it

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So did they forward any info to a mod that can confirm at least whether there is any basis behind FTP's actions?

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Yeah!

3 hours ago, FTPSean said he'd be willing to share any info with mods. None have yet posted in this thread with any confirmation.


That doesn't bode well for FTP.....




Of course, as was just demonstrated, thinking more or less of people because they didn't reply instantly is absurd. Let's remember that the real world doesn't move on internet discussion forum speed.

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I don't know that any mod has necessarily volunteered to recieve this data and look at it yet, so this doesn't say anything bad necessarily about FTP. I know that I, personally, am not qualified to look at whatever FTP has and come to some kind of conclusion, so I certainly won't be volunteering, but maybe a mod who's better at poker than me would like to.
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Old 11-06-2007, 09:11 PM
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Default Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it

Every time this happens, it's the same MO. Roughly 50 grand lost, OP comes up with some sob story to convince others of their innocence.

Pretty sure this sillysal is guilty as charged. Think of the hundreds of thousands this player must have made before getting caught.. Don't feel bad for him/her.

Sure FTP handled the situation poorly, but in the end they did what they had to do.

BTW, I am 99 percent certain pokergirl is actually a guy. He might have his girlfriend post here, but the owner of the account is definately male.
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Old 11-06-2007, 09:35 PM
LateNiteRush LateNiteRush is offline
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BTW, I am 99 percent certain pokergirl is actually a guy. He might have his girlfriend post here, but the owner of the account is definately male.

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How do you know this???
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Old 11-06-2007, 09:39 PM
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Default Re: Fulltilt froze my account with 47 grand in it

well, if it is a bot that can replicate itself sexually, it could explain the similar but slightly different stats
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Old 11-06-2007, 09:51 PM
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well, if it is a bot that can replicate itself sexually, it could explain the similar but slightly different stats

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lol
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