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| Play above bankroll. Countdown to BUSTO |
   
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9 | 3.88% |
| 0WNED by a fish |
  
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27 | 11.64% |
| Steve raises. Stingray reraises all-in. Steve times out. No disconnect protect |
  
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16 | 6.90% |
| Bad game selection |
  
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15 | 6.47% |
| Back to the kiddy pool |
  
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3 | 1.29% |
| The ocean is RIGGED |
  
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23 | 9.91% |
| YOU RAISE WITH THAT?! |
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1 | 0.43% |
| nh, fish |
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27 | 11.64% |
| Play bad, loose; whatever (Yvesaint style) |
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1 | 0.43% |
| Fold preflop |
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4 | 1.72% |
| LOL NATURE |
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20 | 8.62% |
| Double bellybuster |
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4 | 1.72% |
| He had a gutshot |
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42 | 18.10% |
| I'm probably behind. I call (Negreanu style) |
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2 | 0.86% |
| CROCODONK |
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4 | 1.72% |
| I had aces |
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0 | 0% |
| Graph plz |
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5 | 2.16% |
| HU FOR BANKROLLS |
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1 | 0.43% |
| Bad Beat Jackpot? |
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5 | 2.16% |
| Cooler |
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12 | 5.17% |
| I thought he was bluffing |
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10 | 4.31% |
| location: rebuying |
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1 | 0.43% |
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Re: Official JULY Thread: General Discussion/etc
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Yeah when I read Bobbo's post I was thinking to myself, who the hell would take that deal? I mean, it's probably +EV don't get me wrong, but a lot of players would take a much more "fair" deal to the person taking some of their action. Now you could argue Bobbo is a better player than the people you're going to get a better deal from, but even so his edge is not that much bigger to compensate for the [censored] deal, IMO. HEK's idea is probably best for those who want to reduce variance and have a better chance at having a reasonable score. [/ QUOTE ] The deeper you get coupled with an increased edge is where the difference really pays off. Do expected value problems of player A (with 60% chance of winning) v player B with (75% chance) of $1M run it X times. The deal you "overpaid" becomes more valueable the deeper your backee gets. [/ QUOTE ] Well that's pretty obvious in any case. But the EV of taking whoever's action is how well you expect them to do in the "average" tournament in regards to cashes and no-money finishes and final tables, etc. Any reasonable 2p2er is definitely +EV in the stake, probably even with the structure Bobbo wanted others to take if they wanted his action. But as we all know, just because it's +EV doesn't mean you should do it nessicarilly. And I think if Bobbo is really serious about wanting some people to take his action he should be going for a more friendly deal to the staker. [/ QUOTE ] Aisle, I think you're right. If this doesn't work for me, I'm sure I'll reconsider. When speaking about this with other people, they suggested the same deal, so it all seems fair. I have a few days to figure it all out |
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07-01-2007, 08:52 PM
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goal of 50k hands at 5/10 this month. [/ QUOTE ] No offense but I hope you fail at this. I'd like to win some money too you greedy bastard! |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Yeah when I read Bobbo's post I was thinking to myself, who the hell would take that deal? I mean, it's probably +EV don't get me wrong, but a lot of players would take a much more "fair" deal to the person taking some of their action. Now you could argue Bobbo is a better player than the people you're going to get a better deal from, but even so his edge is not that much bigger to compensate for the [censored] deal, IMO. HEK's idea is probably best for those who want to reduce variance and have a better chance at having a reasonable score. [/ QUOTE ] The deeper you get coupled with an increased edge is where the difference really pays off. Do expected value problems of player A (with 60% chance of winning) v player B with (75% chance) of $1M run it X times. The deal you "overpaid" becomes more valueable the deeper your backee gets. [/ QUOTE ] Well that's pretty obvious in any case. But the EV of taking whoever's action is how well you expect them to do in the "average" tournament in regards to cashes and no-money finishes and final tables, etc. Any reasonable 2p2er is definitely +EV in the stake, probably even with the structure Bobbo wanted others to take if they wanted his action. But as we all know, just because it's +EV doesn't mean you should do it nessicarilly. And I think if Bobbo is really serious about wanting some people to take his action he should be going for a more friendly deal to the staker. [/ QUOTE ] Aisle, I think you're right. If this doesn't work for me, I'm sure I'll reconsider. When speaking about this with other people, they suggested the same deal, so it all seems fair. I have a few days to figure it all out [/ QUOTE ] Well I hope for your sake I'm wrong. I'm sure you'll get plenty of takers for a standard 1-1 swap, but if you can get better then more power to you, I just don't know how likely it is. FWIW, I think taking small portions of 2p2ers in the ME is sooo +EV, although obv high variance. |
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