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Old 05-01-2007, 06:10 PM
msin msin is offline
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If you can manage to find her myspace page (not very difficult), she apparently seems to be rather heavily involved in promoting porn starlets as well as the WSOP.

Her personality issues seem to run much deeper than this incident- her myspace is filled with very similar rants and quips.
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Old 05-01-2007, 06:21 PM
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this reminds me of the time Annie Duke grabbed someone's cards after the hand was over and looked at them; I don't remember the details but it was on TV and they were playing for real money (the TOC where she won 2 mil maybe)... I was stunned to see a "professional" do something I hadn't seen outside of .01/.02 home games... now I know she's just a [censored] with no honor

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Sure you aren't thinking of Jennifer Harman sneeking a peek at Phil Laak's cards on PAD?

The amount of libel on this board is amazing. People will write complete rubbish.

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Annie has done this in televised tournaments. You're right about the libel, but you should save those complaints for cases where the author is actually full of [censored].

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Notice that I was just asking for confirmation because you can't believe 90% of what you read here. I never said the poster was full of [censored]. (Still would like to see a youtube video, not a book reference, of Duke looking in the muck, since to me that is such outrageous cheating that its hard to believe. For the same reason I'm inclined to think J Harman must have only been mimicking it.)

If the poker player isn't in the 2+2 click, he'll be trashed here with complete disregard for anything that comes close to being considered evidence. Sad... well, not really, since no one of real importance gives a [censored] what is written on NVG.
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Old 05-01-2007, 06:26 PM
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this reminds me of the time Annie Duke grabbed someone's cards after the hand was over and looked at them; I don't remember the details but it was on TV and they were playing for real money (the TOC where she won 2 mil maybe)... I was stunned to see a "professional" do something I hadn't seen outside of .01/.02 home games... now I know she's just a [censored] with no honor

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Sure you aren't thinking of Jennifer Harman sneeking a peek at Phil Laak's cards on PAD?

The amount of libel on this board is amazing. People will write complete rubbish.

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Annie has done this in televised tournaments. You're right about the libel, but you should save those complaints for cases where the author is actually full of [censored].

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Notice that I was just asking for confirmation because you can't believe 90% of what you read here. I never said the poster was full of [censored]. (Still would like to see a youtube video, not a book reference, of Duke looking in the muck, since to me that is such outrageous cheating that its hard to believe. For the same reason I'm inclined to think J Harman must have only been mimicking it.)

If the poker player isn't in the 2+2 click, he'll be trashed here with complete disregard for anything that comes close to being considered evidence. Sad... well, not really, since no one of real importance gives a [censored] what is written on NVG.

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This thread has a split personality.
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Old 05-01-2007, 06:30 PM
Howard Treesong Howard Treesong is offline
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this reminds me of the time Annie Duke grabbed someone's cards after the hand was over and looked at them; I don't remember the details but it was on TV and they were playing for real money (the TOC where she won 2 mil maybe)... I was stunned to see a "professional" do something I hadn't seen outside of .01/.02 home games... now I know she's just a [censored] with no honor

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Sure you aren't thinking of Jennifer Harman sneeking a peek at Phil Laak's cards on PAD?

The amount of libel on this board is amazing. People will write complete rubbish.

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like WutRUTryin2Hit mentioned:

Check out the book - positively 5th street by James McManus. Theres a mention of Annie Duke pulling a guys cards out of the muck (i think it was tony Ma) during a 1k sat for the main event.

Also i believe DN in the past had made posts in rgp about Annie Duke and situations similar to this but i cant find them at the moment nor do i know if theyre true or not.

This reminds me of a past prelim WSOP broadcast from either 04 or 05. There was some kind of argument with AD and some other guy. I think ESPN cut away from the final table they were broadcasting to check in on a Omaha 8/b tournament and Annie Duke was really worked up and nearly screaming at someone (i think it was Gank/ Brett Jungblut ). That was when i decided i didnt like this women.
Not sure what her beef was but her tone was just so obnoxious.



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It gets worse. The latest on Terrence's blog comments by Joy Miller to his blog, she doesn't represent herself very well. My favorite line of hers is "Remember one thing, Terrence, you're not Johnny Chan, you're Terrence Chan." I guess if he was Johnny Chan they would have done something different?



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It seems apropos to relate an Annie Duke anecdote here. In the $5K NLH at the '03 WSOP, we got down to two tables with a couple of empty spots. Annie limped UTG, I raised from MP with AKs, and Annie stacked. I was getting almost 3:1 and called; she had KK. I windowed a big, fat, pretty A, however, and sent her packing. Although I was dead silent, she lit me up in a Hellmuthian rant: "that was a stone awful play. You're just terrible. I can't believe you did that. You simply suck." It went on for about thirty seconds, whereupon Johnny Chan quietly said: "Be quiet. I would have done the same thing he did."

She blushed, shut up, and left. But it sealed my impression of her as an egocentric, hypocritical, arrogant bitch. And by the way, that's not libel.
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Old 05-01-2007, 08:06 PM
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"Suck a bag of dicks"
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Old 05-01-2007, 08:24 PM
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Ugh, just read this. Such a gross situation. The good news is that it's so gross that I'm pretty sure anyone who hears about this, from any side of the story, will end up supporting you, Terrence.
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Old 05-01-2007, 10:23 PM
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I actually got a response from her from my email that was quite brief:

from the JoyJoy email addy sent at 6:30 pm today:

i also directly with Bob Daily, who was in attendance. i date a former WSOP champion (surprised that hasn't come out on the 2+2 yet), our TD was an assistant TD from WSOP, there was no collusion.

Terrence had open option to point out that he didn't like Annie sitting with Steve for OVER AN HOUR! and we would have moved her. He never did, he waited until the next day to post a blog and have outsiders who weren't at the event give their two cents.

while i appreciate you contacting me civily and without animosity, i do NOT have any misunderstandings. Shannon was not in collusion with Steve, Annie was not coaching him except that he was so drunk, she told him to fold. In all honesty, Dannenmann had 6 friends there who were yelling the same thing.

i haven't gotten on the sites to defend the charity because 2+2 is gossip and Terrence's blog is skewed towards him.i'm responding to you because you were one of the few whom actually emailed with questions, not threats. which, again, thank you.

i appreciate Terrence's $1500 donation, it was also tax-deductible, which, as you know, is an appeal for poker players who claim their income. he does NOT deserve for us to buy him a seat at the WSOP, i knowthe rules, they were followed, and while i regret that he feels wronged, he not only wasn't---he had NUMEROUS opportunities to voice his opinion;.

i've worked with the WSOP for over 2 years, and if there was ANY hint of collusion, we would have addressed it. I'm sure you're going to believe Terrence as he is "the nice guy whose just trying to get whats owed to him", but that's not the truth. Terrence won third place, and got a second place prize. we were vocal about the time limit, i WAS the one who told Terrence, if he wanted to play it out then we'd have to pay $30,000. everyone keeps sayibg "if it WAS a real tournament", well if it was...we would have been playing in a venue where we didn't have a time constraint.

hope this clears up why i haven't responded


my email to the charity and her:


http://terrencechan.livejournal.com/

Thought you might want to see some of the 'press' generated by your latest Charity Event. From what I understand 7000+ views so far in 2 days.

Colluding at a poker table is cheating...whether it is for a charity event or not.

It can't be good for your organization that it would seem colluding has gone unpunished...and the player who finished 3rd has been berated by one of your organizers.
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Old 05-01-2007, 10:35 PM
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Joy must be able to turn on the charm for the right people. Hard to understand how she ever gets a job otherwise. It's a little unfair in a way to pile on her too much as she apparently is an incompetent when it comes to defending herself. Like another poster said, she really is a "Bless her heart" case.

One thing that bothers me. From what I gather it looks like Joy did try to accomodate Terrence by getting Shannon E. and Steve D. to agree on splitting the First Place Prize so that Terrance could be awarded the Second Place Golf Package Prize which Joy valued at $15,000. If Terrence didn't want the prize couldn't he have just sold it on ebay? If it really had a value of $15,000 he probably could have gotten $10,000 for it and bought his own entry into the WSOP. He'd have been even with the other two then.

Sounds like he was given a chance to mitigate his perceived damages and failed to do so. I have to wonder if his judgement wasn't clouded over an inflamed desire for a pound of flesh.

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Old 05-01-2007, 10:37 PM
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i date a former WSOP champion (surprised that hasn't come out on the 2+2 yet)

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Which unlucky bastard would this be?

And does this woman say anything without pointing out how many "famous" people she knows?
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Old 05-01-2007, 10:53 PM
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