Fred Thompson for Poker?

[TheEngineer]

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Yes, that guy Dole used Viagra and he only has one good arm, too, and he uses Visa. And Thompson never seems to use that other arm, and he could be buying Viagra with a Visa too for all anybody here knows. It's just sickening when you put all the facts together and see the big picture. You'll never get this kind of analysis from the ChristianNazi douchebags at the FoF for sure!

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I still don't understand why you're so upset. Are you suggesting that we cannot even mention FoF, as if speaking negatively about one particular Christian group = speaking negatively about all of Christianity? They are our primary opposition, you know. Perhaps you could clarify, as none of us yet understand.

As for me, my only problem with FoF is that they wish to force their opinions on me.

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I still don't understand why you think I'm upset. That's your perception, but it's not accurate, and I imagine that it reflects more on your viewpoint than anything else.

My sole agenda is to call attention to an infantile posting that seems to be utterly without merit, and appears to be directly in violation of the guidelines posted by the moderator.

You would probably be surprised to learn that I agree with you on the issue. But I just don't think it's acceptable for the rules to work only one way. Mindless Hillary or Obama bashing isn't any better than mindless Bush bashing. Also, the gutter language and the gratuitous insults aimed at Christians greatly reduce the value of this thread.

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It's nothing personal. I was simply sticking up for Legislurker's right to share his opinion. If the situation were reversed, I'd have done the same for you. As for the post in question, many of us have expressed the merit behind his post, so I'll refrain from rehashing.

Cheers.

[Emperor]

Not sure what "Scandal" they are talking about...

I'd also agree that Lawrence v. Texas was a huge step in the wrong direction for states rights, and the overall health of America by making obvious sinful, and antisociety behavior legal.

Homosexuals aren't a protected class in my state, and I was very upset when Governor Strickland used his power to make discrimnation against them for State jobs illegal.

Luckily private industy can still follow their values to try and discourage this kind of destructive behavior.


I also don't see how this makes Christians look bad. If anything it makes these law students more concerned for society.

I have no idea how this affects Thompson's view on Poker

Best Wishes,

Emperor

[TheEngineer]

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Not sure what "Scandal" they are talking about...

I'd also agree that Lawrence v. Texas was a huge step in the wrong direction for states rights, and the overall health of America by making obvious sinful, and antisociety behavior legal.

Homosexuals aren't a protected class in my state, and I was very upset when Governor Strickland used his power to make discrimnation against them for State jobs illegal.

Luckily private industy can still follow their values to try and discourage this kind of destructive behavior.


I also don't see how this makes Christians look bad. If anything it makes these law students more concerned for society.

Best Wishes,

Emperor

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The scandal is the Monica Goodling scandal. I posted the article to show the hiring preferences for ideologues into civil service jobs.

I posted the quote about homosexuality to show that these folks think it's not enough for them to simply not be gay, but that they need to criminalize this for others, as if that would somehow make homosexuality go away. I also quoted it to show that the DoJ isn't hiring based in existing law, but on their vision of laws (you can see how that applies to us). I'll refrain from commenting further, as this is the wrong forum for that, aside from stating that I haven't needed any legislation to keep me 100% hetero. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[Legislurker]

We could just have the thread locked.

[TheEngineer]

I think I'll bow out of this thread (and will not reply to this post). I'm not trying to offend anyone. I am a Christian myself....I just don't like the idea of these fundamentalist groups who wish to force their ideas on others via legislation. I don't see how we can get where we need to be if we're not allowed to even discuss FoF for fear of offending anyone.

Cheers.

[frommagio]

4_2_it, where are you man?

[frommagio]

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This wouldnt be a [censored] issue if the primary system wasnt so gd broken. EVERY state has ChristaNazis, SC and Iowa especially. Republicans need to remember they can win national elections without totally pandering. Giuliani is their best run-off guy as is. Is it worth all that time for Visa and Viagra commercials? Would be great to have a moderate wing REFUSE to rally behind any panderer. Bush isn't a Christian in the least, but he has "honoured' the deal he made with the devil to get elected, and governs for them. Bush knew he owed them, and paid. You can't jsut move away in politics and expect nothing to happen.

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It's nothing personal. I was simply sticking up for Legislurker's right to share his opinion. If the situation were reversed, I'd have done the same for you. As for the post in question, many of us have expressed the merit behind his post, so I'll refrain from rehashing.

Cheers.

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To the contrary, I haven't seen a single thing written here that demonstrates any merit behind his post, beyond "I feel it has content," and, essentially, "not all Christians are nazis, this is only directed at the bad ones". Mostly, I just see accusations of anger directed at people who see no merit in the original post.

The reason that nobody has defended the content in this post is that there is no defensible content in the post. That's the point. There is no defense for this kind of junk, and it simply doesn't belong here.

[frommagio]

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I think I'll bow out of this thread (and will not reply to this post). I'm not trying to offend anyone. I am a Christian myself....I just don't like the idea of these fundamentalist groups who wish to force their ideas on others via legislation. I don't see how we can get where we need to be if we're not allowed to even discuss FoF for fear of offending anyone.

Cheers.

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I think discussion of FoF would be fine. (Does anybody really disagree?) The question here is: How do you feel about discussing ChristaNazis, false Christian devil-worshipping presidents, and Viagra panderers?

Your only choice in this discussion is to leave or to somehow shore up the very weak position you've adopted. I expect more from you, and this is disappointing.

[Legislurker]

Do I have to lead you by the nose?

UIGEA has two driving factors. Harrah's bribed Frist, while the horseracers bribed Goodlatte et al. The other was Frist wanted to PANDER to FoF for primary support to be president. They repute themselves to be THE authoritative CHRISTIAN voice in America. These Republicans signed some kind of "values contract" with Dobson's consent, blessing and participation. This activity is despicable, unchristian, and will lead to a loss in the general election worse than Bob Dole's(thats the Viagra reference because his loss led to his endorsement deal with them). It ALSO keeps Fred Thompson from having the cahones to back poker players. These evil people with the mailing lists to the blue-haired old ladies and the bible thumpers are screwing us over to keep power, simply because they dislike gambling, and it appears to be another evil bogeyman to scare people with. They call gambling a sin, totally ignoring the Bible. Would you prefer calling them blasphemers or apostates in lieu of Nazis? They want to install some de facto social order to consolidate their position as determiners of what is right and wrong, and keep the halndle-end of tithing. To hate them, to name-call them, and to actively post agaisnt them is well within the scope of this forum, this thread, and any poker player's perogative. If you want to extrapolate from trashing them to trashing all Christians, maybe you should fax your resume' to their marketing dept. That's exactly the doublespeak and misrepresentation they present to their sheep audience. None of us are anti-Christian, anti-family, or anti-Republican. Hell, most of us go to church, have families, and used to be Republicans. We just can't keep silent that our names and beliefs are being used to rob our livelihoods and liberties.
If your ego and vanity can't handle that, open internet forums aren't for you.

[TheEngineer]

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Your only choice in this discussion is to leave or to somehow shore up the very weak position you've adopted. I expect more from you, and this is disappointing.

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My interest in this topic started and stopped with sticking up for a poster's right to express his opinion. Trying to goad me into an argument won't do the trick, as I have no dog in this fight. See, while you've been worrying about Legislurker's post, I was busy writing next month's Congessional Ratings Guide and sending copies of my three published letters to the editors to my congressman, governor, and both senators (and all with one arm in a sling). See, I'd rather work on my rights than fight with my allies. So, keep starting arguments from behind your keyboard (this is the third one I've seen you start in the past three weeks)...we'll be busy fighting our opponents.

Have a good day.