** Official September Chat Thread: The Grey Swan **

[twoblacknines]

PokerStars Game #11982220137: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/09/10 - 15:56:59 (ET)
Table 'Pasithee III' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: devolve ($244.75 in chips)
Seat 2: Razzle11 ($197 in chips)
Seat 4: Schwallie4 ($436 in chips)
Seat 5: MARC 753 ($218.40 in chips)
Seat 6: Steamboy2 ($93.20 in chips)
Seat 7: treysfull21 ($633.80 in chips)
Seat 8: Baby Spice ($158.75 in chips)
Seat 9: Dilith ($208.20 in chips)
Razzle11: posts small blind $1
MadSkillz609: is sitting out
Schwallie4: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to devolve [Ah 6s]
MARC 753: folds
Steamboy2: folds
treysfull21: folds
Baby Spice: folds
MadSkillz609 leaves the table
Dilith: folds
devolve: raises $2 to $4
Razzle11: folds
Schwallie4: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [5c Td 4c]
Schwallie4: checks
devolve: bets $8
Schwallie4: calls $8
*** TURN *** [5c Td 4c] [Kd]
Schwallie4: checks
devolve: bets $21
Schwallie4: calls $21
*** RIVER *** [5c Td 4c Kd] [9d]
LandroTM joins the table at seat #3
Schwallie4: checks
devolve: bets $65
Schwallie4: folds
devolve collected $64 from pot
devolve: doesn't show hand

[Cry Me A River]

diebitter isn't running bad anymore...

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $37.40
BB: $10.00
UTG: $40.15
UTG+1: $72.75
MP1: $43.65
MP2: $49.25
CO: $14.25
Hero (BTN): $50.45

Preflop: Hero is dealt 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (8 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">MP2 raises to $2.00</font>, CO calls $2.00, Hero calls $2.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($6.75) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">MP2 bets $4.00</font>, CO calls $4.00, <font color="red">Hero raises to $20.00</font>, <font color="red">MP2 raises all-in to $47.25</font>, CO calls all-in for $8.25, Hero calls $27.25

Turn: ($113.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($113.50) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $113.50 ($3 Rake)

MP2 had A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (three of a kind, Aces) and WON (+$61.25)
CO had K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] and LOST (-$14.25)
Hero had 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and LOST (-$49.25)

[Mr_Donktastic]

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P4NTS and Moussayre are the main ones. theres a couple other live ones there now.

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[effang]

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[x] AK ARRR INNNNNNN
[x] tarped em good
[x] funny chat
[x] GM gets handed another stack

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 7 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $57.75
BB: $400.00
UTG: $476.40
UTG+1: $688.25
MP: $493.00
CO: $482.55
Hero (BTN): $519.65

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $12.00</font>, UTG+1 calls $12.00, <font color="red">MP raises to $36.00</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $36.00, 2 folds, UTG calls $24.00, UTG+1 calls $24.00

Flop: ($150) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($150) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">UTG bets $74.00</font>Eventually21 said, "come and get me", 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $228.00</font>, <font color="red">UTG raises all-in to $440.40</font>, Hero calls $212.40

River: ($1030.80) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $1,030.80 ($3 Rake)

UTG had K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a pair of Deuces) and LOST (-$476.40)
Hero had Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a full house, Queens full of Deuces) and WON (+$551.40)

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GM, is this standard for QQ?

recently i've been tossing QQ facing a UTG raise and MP3/bet. At a certain point, you're only playing for set value, and you have no idea if somebody behind you is going to reshove...

Obv KK i just felt it, but you're not really getting good set odds unless they both just flat call right?

are you actually looking to play poker w/ QQ facing this PF action given that 40%+ of the time there will be and ace or king on the flop?

[TheProdigy]

lol fyi your river bluff wasn't a bluff. You were ahead.

P.S. I am calling here if I hit a 2 on the river as well, so if you were indeed bluffing and not valuebetting you may want to pick better spots than vs me here. I put you on Ax(leaning toward AJ), and that is also why you can see why I would call on the river with a lone 2. I can explain why if you want.

P.S. I should've c-r but felt I would lose value from your bluffing range.

PokerStars Game #11982220137: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/09/10 - 15:56:59 (ET)
Table 'Pasithee III' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: devolve ($244.75 in chips)
Seat 2: Razzle11 ($197 in chips)
Seat 4: Schwallie4 ($436 in chips)
Seat 5: MARC 753 ($218.40 in chips)
Seat 6: Steamboy2 ($93.20 in chips)
Seat 7: treysfull21 ($633.80 in chips)
Seat 8: Baby Spice ($158.75 in chips)
Seat 9: Dilith ($208.20 in chips)
Razzle11: posts small blind $1
MadSkillz609: is sitting out
Schwallie4: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Schwallie4 [Ac 2c]
MARC 753: folds
Steamboy2: folds
treysfull21: folds
Baby Spice: folds
MadSkillz609 leaves the table
Dilith: folds
devolve: raises $2 to $4
Razzle11: folds
Schwallie4: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [5c Td 4c]
Schwallie4: checks
devolve: bets $8
Schwallie4: calls $8
*** TURN *** [5c Td 4c] [Kd]
Schwallie4: checks
devolve: bets $21
Schwallie4: calls $21
*** RIVER *** [5c Td 4c Kd] [9d]
LandroTM joins the table at seat #3
Schwallie4: checks
devolve: bets $65
Schwallie4: folds
devolve collected $64 from pot
devolve: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $67 | Rake $3
Board [5c Td 4c Kd 9d]
Seat 1: devolve (button) collected ($64)
Seat 2: Razzle11 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Schwallie4 (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 5: MARC 753 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Steamboy2 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: treysfull21 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Baby Spice folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Dilith folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[Mike Kelley]

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1/3 through the month: 8k hands of breakeven joy.

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I feel your pain. Perhaps this will make you feel better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVp69TtT_A8

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Oddly enough, it did. Now to try and make myself feel worse: off to the tables!

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It's catchy. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

[GrandMelon]

30k month here I come!

[TheProdigy]

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man, your image is crazy. how do you not get stacked in the first hand? are the games at nl400 that aggressive??? I feel like after your flop decision, you were getting it AI regardless. I'm just curious is this villain specific (obv), but more so, level specific?

thanks

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Man did I get handed a bunch of stacks today, was up 5 buyins with KK alone.

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $2/$4 Blinds - 8 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $483.00
BB: $395.10
Hero (UTG): $900.70
UTG+1: $438.05
MP1: $1,275.20
MP2: $520.90
CO: $194.00
BTN: $287.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (8 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $16.00</font>, 2 folds, MP2 calls $16.00, 4 folds

Flop: ($38) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $28.00</font>, <font color="red">MP2 raises to $56.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $168.00</font>, MP2 calls $112.00

Turn: ($374) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $640.00</font>, MP2 calls all-in for $336.90
Uncalled bet of $303.10 returned to Hero

River: ($1047.80) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $1,047.80 ($3 Rake)

MP2 had Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and LOST (-$520.90)
Hero had K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pair, Kings and Fives) and WON (+$523.90)



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[twoblacknines]

Prodigy,
pm sent but I think calling me with a lone 2 would be a huge leak.