***SSSH Official NC/LC Thread September***

[milesdyson]

[ QUOTE ]
.. from the results or from my play?

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you played it perfectly. they both played like tards. i wish Khi did not call river because then i wouldn't know that T8 c/r turn [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[waffle]

The only way I can console myself is hoping that T8 was so dumb he thought he had a straight.

[mattnxtc]

Meet the two newest members of my buddy list:

FullTiltPoker Game #3720761012: Table Nadir (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - Limit Hold'em - 22:23:11 ET - 2007/09/30
Seat 1: Jedddddro ($19.20)
Seat 2: Mattnxtc ($41.55)
Seat 3: airrichy ($7.40)
Seat 4: Joha0036 ($25.80)
Seat 5: tlwalker33 ($6.30)
Seat 6: HambonioH ($26.25)
Mattnxtc posts the small blind of $0.25
airrichy posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Mattnxtc [Kc Kd]
Mattnxtc: lol
Joha0036 folds
Mattnxtc: good hand
tlwalker33 calls $0.50
HambonioH calls $0.50
Jedddddro folds
Mattnxtc raises to $1
airrichy calls $0.50
tlwalker33 calls $0.50
HambonioH raises to $1.50
Mattnxtc raises to $2
airrichy calls $1
tlwalker33 folds
HambonioH calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [Jd 2c Ks]
Mattnxtc bets $0.50
airrichy calls $0.50
HambonioH calls $0.50
*** TURN *** [Jd 2c Ks] [9d]
Mattnxtc bets $1
airrichy calls $1
HambonioH folds
*** RIVER *** [Jd 2c Ks 9d] [Ts]
Mattnxtc checks
airrichy bets $1
Mattnxtc calls $1
*** SHOW DOWN ***
airrichy shows [Qs 9h] a straight, King high
Mattnxtc mucks
airrichy wins the pot ($12) with a straight, King high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $12.50 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Jd 2c Ks 9d Ts]
Seat 1: Jedddddro (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Mattnxtc (small blind) mucked [Kc Kd] - three of a kind, Kings
Seat 3: airrichy (big blind) showed [Qs 9h] and won ($12) with a straight, King high
Seat 4: Joha0036 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: tlwalker33 folded before the Flop
Seat 6: HambonioH folded on the Turn

FullTiltPoker Game #3720746941: Table Nadir (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - Limit Hold'em - 22:21:50 ET - 2007/09/30
Seat 1: Jedddddro ($20.20)
Seat 2: Mattnxtc ($49.55)
Seat 3: airrichy ($11.40)
Seat 4: Joha0036 ($25.80)
Seat 5: tlwalker33 ($6.30)
Seat 6: HambonioH ($13.75)
Jedddddro posts the small blind of $0.25
Mattnxtc has 5 seconds left to act
Mattnxtc posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Mattnxtc [Kh 6c]
airrichy calls $0.50
Joha0036 folds
tlwalker33 folds
HambonioH raises to $1
Jedddddro calls $0.75
Mattnxtc calls $0.50
airrichy calls $0.50
*** FLOP *** [4s 7c Kd]
Jedddddro checks
Mattnxtc has 15 seconds left to act
Mattnxtc checks
airrichy bets $0.50
HambonioH raises to $1
Jedddddro folds
Mattnxtc calls $1
airrichy calls $0.50
*** TURN *** [4s 7c Kd] [6d]
Mattnxtc checks
airrichy checks
HambonioH bets $1
Mattnxtc raises to $2
airrichy calls $2
HambonioH raises to $3
Mattnxtc raises to $4
airrichy folds
HambonioH calls $1
*** RIVER *** [4s 7c Kd 6d] [Ac]
Mattnxtc bets $1
HambonioH raises to $2
Mattnxtc calls $1
*** SHOW DOWN ***
HambonioH shows [4h Ah] two pair, Aces and Fours
Mattnxtc mucks
HambonioH wins the pot ($20.50) with two pair, Aces and Fours
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $21 | Rake $0.50
Board: [4s 7c Kd 6d Ac]
Seat 1: Jedddddro (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 2: Mattnxtc (big blind) mucked [Kh 6c] - two pair, Kings and Sixes
Seat 3: airrichy folded on the Turn
Seat 4: Joha0036 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: tlwalker33 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: HambonioH (button) showed [4h Ah] and won ($20.50) with two pair, Aces and Fours

[Absolution]

[ QUOTE ]
The only way I can console myself is hoping that T8 was so dumb he thought he had a straight.

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No, he knew what he was doing. Well, let me rephrase that, he knew he was bluffing. The fact that it's a clueless river bet, let alone turn raise, he didn't know.

This is why online poker is still profitable. People have become aggressive, but that doesn't mean they are any better. Just like they used to call everything thinking they could win if they hit their hand, now they think they can just bet their way to victory. There is no thought, just I have a draw/pair/bluff and I must bet every street to follow it up. There is no thought about the pot size, what the other players have, how many players are in the pot, how others will perceive their bet, their image, etc... They just know they are supposed to be aggressive so that's what they do. It's higher variance than before, but still profitable.

[milesdyson]

hand 1 is sop for most fish..
hand 2 clear fold preflop and probably on the flop too.

[mattnxtc]

miles...the preflop raiser was so bad that it was the only reason i called...flop...I actually didnt realize he had even raised the flop when I called..

[yourface]

spew of the day:

Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
2 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">yourface raises to $5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $15</font>, yourface calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($30, 2 players)
yourface checks, <font color="#cc0000">SB bets $5</font>, <font color="#cc0000">yourface raises to $10</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to $15</font>, yourface folds.
Uncalled bets: $5 returned to SB.

holla

[Heisenb3rg]

so....many...bad...beats....mustt....keep...going. .. Surpisngly not on tilt at all.. probabily cause im playing so well.. 38/47 showdown stats 36% winning sessions and only -400 in 1.5k hands.

Here's a few p0wnage hands today to change the pace of my complaints up. Yes they all had reads.

9.5/10

Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $10/$20
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises</font>, CO calls, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6.5SB, 3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4.75BB, 3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, UTG folds, CO calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (8.75BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, CO calls.

Results:
Final pot: 12.75BB
<font color="#ffffff">Hero showed 5s 6h</font>
<font color="#ffffff">CO mucks Th Jh</font>


10/10 (I literally envisioned this whole scenario before I raised)

Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $10/$20
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls, UTG calls, CO calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (10SB, 5 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, CO calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises all-in $25</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8.5BB, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: 8.5BB)


River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (8.5BB, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: 8.5BB)


Results:
Final pot: 8.5BB
<font color="#ffffff">SB showed Ts 2s</font>

6.5/10 (knew CO was raising any 2 after he posted.. hand converter didnt show, but CO posted)

Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $10/$20
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, 2 folds, CO calls.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (7.5SB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, CO calls.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5.75BB, 2 players)
CO checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

River: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (7.75BB, 2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks.

Results:
Final pot: 7.75BB
<font color="#ffffff">CO showed 7c 6d</font>

6/10 (put her on a very likely ace high)

Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $10/$20
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, Button folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB folds, CO calls.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7SB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5.5BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5.5BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

Results:
Final pot: 7.5BB
<font color="#ffffff">Hero showed Ac Qh</font>
<font color="#ffffff">CO mucks 4s As</font>

9/10 (The beauty of this hand is that I wouldnt have done it if button didnt call... It wouldnt have worked if button didnt call either. I also tanked for about 10 seconds on the 4 to set it up.)

Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $10/$20
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, Button calls, SB folds, Hero calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6.5SB, 3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, Button checks.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3.25BB, 3 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, Button calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, 2 folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: 6.25BB

7/10 (I figured he had a low pair and was taking a stab to fold out anotehr low pair, peel once)

Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $10/$20
6 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB 3-bets</font>, BB folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero caps</font>, SB calls.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (9SB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5.5BB, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, SB folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: 5.5BB

5/10 Person was check/raising all good hands and donking all bluffs

Poker Room skin
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $10/$20
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6SB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, BB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6BB, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, SB calls.

Results:
Final pot: 8BB

MHIG

[yourface]

cool hands, I like the JQ one best

[Heisenb3rg]

KT was the best by far cause it also put someone on vicious tilt...

Online poker trash talking is hilarious.. Here's a hand that happened when I was on tilt I did vs a TAG a few days ago... I showed him the hand. The next like 20 hands he started re-rasing my raises with any two cards..
His final comments were DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE as he left

Note: I figured there was a decent chance he had a flush draw on the flop that either was trying to rep the king or hit the king on the river. However this is probabily like the first of many times this has ever worked.
Do not try this at home unless u like burning money.


Poker Stars
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $10/$20
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4.5SB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO 3-bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero caps</font>, CO calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6.25BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, CO calls.

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (8.25BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, CO folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: 12.25BB