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#101
09-16-2007, 09:03 PM
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Re: Biggest lie in the history of mankind
OK I hold my hands up, I was just in this thread to flame and try and provoke reactions. I think there was a vegetarian topic in OOT that I'm getting confused with. In terms of being unable to explain my view, perhaps. I don't really put much care towards it though. I grew up in an environment where animals were killed and we ate them, and it's natural to me. Arguing about where we stand in the scheme of the animal kingdom seems pretty absurd and pointless to me, but I guess not for everyone. Sorry for being a dick anyway, I should have thought more before posting like that in a "serious" forum.
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#102
09-17-2007, 01:46 AM
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Re: Biggest lie in the history of mankind
Also, I don't know what you mean by "universe becoming aware of itself".
Life is the universe becoming aware of itself. Without life there can be no recognition given to planets, stars, and galaxies.
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#104
09-17-2007, 01:11 PM
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I think you have some valid points, but it is only natural to favor your own species over others. As far as using other species for food, lots of animals are carnivorous. Is it immoral for a wolf to kill and eat a deer? For a lion to kill and eat a zebra? If not, why is it immoral for us to kill a cow to eat?
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#105
09-17-2007, 01:12 PM
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Re: Biggest lie in the history of mankind
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[ QUOTE ] Life is the universe becoming aware of itself. [/ QUOTE ] So plants have awareness? [/ QUOTE ] Probably not, but I bet you can't prove they don't. I know I can't.
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#106
09-17-2007, 01:20 PM
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Life is the universe becoming aware of itself. [/ QUOTE ] So plants have awareness? [/ QUOTE ] Probably not, but I bet you can't prove they don't. I know I can't. [/ QUOTE ] You're aware that pigs Can fly, but they only do it when we're not looking? luckyme
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#107
09-17-2007, 01:21 PM
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Re: Biggest lie in the history of mankind
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Life is the universe becoming aware of itself. [/ QUOTE ] So plants have awareness? [/ QUOTE ] Probably not, but I bet you can't prove they don't. I know I can't. [/ QUOTE ] No I just thought it an odd thing to presume..
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#108
09-17-2007, 01:25 PM
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Re: Biggest lie in the history of mankind
Actually, I think in some situations cannibalism is justifiable. I certainly don't go around killing my neighbors and eating them, but I don't fault the Donner party or the South American plane crash survivors from eating the meat of people who were already dead in order to survive.
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#109
09-17-2007, 04:20 PM
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Re: Biggest lie in the history of mankind
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I think you have some valid points, but it is only natural to favor your own species over others. [/ QUOTE ] It's also "natural" to want to do bad things to people (when you would benefit from it). [ QUOTE ] Is it immoral for a wolf to kill and eat a deer? For a lion to kill and eat a zebra? If not, why is it immoral for us to kill a cow to eat? [/ QUOTE ] Other animals aren't considered "moral agents".
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