2007-2008 NFL Predictions

[BillNye]

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The Pats, Colts & Eagles being about the only consistently good teams year after year has a lot more to do w/ them having the 3 best QB's in the league than the coaches; even if Bellicheck is the best coach.

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A great front office helps too. The GMs, scouts and personnel directors are all top notch for these three franchises.

But you're right. I'll take Manning over Billichek, tyvm.

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Manning is the best player in football! I said Id take a good coach over a good position.

Manning is not "good" hes the best.

Everybody else: Why do you think teams trade 2 1st rounders, 2 2nd rounders, and $8million for a coach, and the next year they win the superbowl? (I dont think Gruden is an amazing coach but it just shows that NFL Owners are on the same page as me.)

Coaching is so much more important than you guys think. Obviously you havent had Mike Tice or Brad Chilldress as your HC and you take you coaches for granted.

Any informed football fan values a good head coach. If you think they are not important, you dont know [censored] about football.

[WhoIam]

A strangely older-looking Marcus Vick will be Falcons' starting quarterback. Meanwhile when Michael Vick reports to prison, it will be discovered that a mistake was made when he was originally finger printed.

[lastchance]

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It's more than 10 games. MORE THAN 10 games. That means 11 games. NE is the only team that can win more than 10 games = 11+ games.

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Really, I'll bet you there are more than 1 team other than NE that'll win 11 games or more.

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Yeah, I suck at wording things.

[PokerFink]

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The big problem is that [Green Bay's] schedule is so brutal that I don't see them doing better than 8-8.

Out of the division, they host Philly, SD, Wash, Carolina, and Oakland. They visit NYG, Denver and KC back to back in a short week, Dallas, and St. Louis.

I just don't see them pulling off a winning record.

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Green Bay has the 2nd easiest schedule in the league according to Pro Football Prospectus.

Philly and SD are obviously tough, but San Diego won't be as good this year and Washington, Carolina and Oakland are all average to below average.

New York isn't any good, Denver is overrated, KC is awful, St. Louis is below average and so is Dallas. It's 2007, not 2006; that's an easy schedule.

And they get to play Minny and Detroit twice.

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The head coach isn't nearly as important as the coordinators, position coaches, GM, or scouts. Sure in some places the head coach picks these guys, but that isn't the case for the most important of that group, the GM and scouting department.

Take Joe Gibbs, I refuse to believe that the game has passed him by as so many seem to believe. He's a hall of fame coach, but a big part of his success came from having a superb GM. Now that he doesn't he isn't winning.

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Everybody else: Why do you think teams trade 2 1st rounders, 2 2nd rounders, and $8million for a coach, and the next year they win the superbowl? (I dont think Gruden is an amazing coach but it just shows that NFL Owners are on the same page as me.)

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Touting a fluke as proof of your point is ridiculous. Dungy had a lot of success, but the political climate for him was terrible. The next guy comes into a great team and wins the Super Bowl, never to be heard from again.

The fact that top players make considerably more than top coaches reflects owners' thoughts on the situation much more accurately than giving away draft picks when your team is already loaded with talent.

[TheNoodleMan]

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The fact that top players make considerably more than top coaches reflects owners' thoughts on the situation much more accurately than giving away draft picks when your team is already loaded with talent.

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There is no salary cap for coaches either, so if they were really more valuable than players you would expect to see massive bidding wars erupting for the best coaches. Instead, prospective coaches get offered similar money by multiple teams and choose the what they think is the best situation (ie: the team with the best players).

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The fact that top players make considerably more than top coaches reflects owners' thoughts on the situation much more accurately than giving away draft picks when your team is already loaded with talent.

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There is no salary cap for coaches either, so if they were really more valuable than players you would expect to see massive bidding wars erupting for the best coaches. Instead, prospective coaches get offered similar money by multiple teams and choose the what they think is the best situation (ie: the team with the best players).

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You can't compare a great coaches situation to a player. A guy like Belicheck doesn't have to worry about blowing out a knee or getting old so his window of earning is as long as he wants it to be. So as long as he has an owner that will pay him well and let him run the show he is content enough that he isn't going to play out the deal and put himself on the open market.

But if for whatever reason Belicheck did that I could see him getting Manning money.

[hoyasnaxa]

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But if for whatever reason Belicheck did that I could see him getting Manning money.

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WTF. He wouldnt even get Eli money. This is ridiculous.

[BillNye]

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the packers are still going to be awful, how will they win their division outright?

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Did this guy get denied admission for the 2007 Packers Bandwagon because it was full already or something? Come on people, someone move over and let him on, he feels left out.

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I think the Packers may actually have a fairly solid team. Defense looks pretty good. The young OL started shaky last year (started 3 rookies), but made strides as the season went on. Some young WR's emerged to give them depth behind Driver and Jennings. The big question mark is RB and so far, Brandon Jackson has looked alright. To me, they seem better than I thought they would a couple months ago

The big problem is that their schedule is so brutal that I don't see them doing better than 8-8.

Out of the division, they host Philly, SD, Wash, Carolina, and Oakland. They visit NYG, Denver and KC back to back in a short week, Dallas, and St. Louis.

I just don't see them pulling off a winning record.

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Only thing I dont like about the Packers this year is the RBs, they are bottom 30 for sure.

My position on RBs is that a great offense can make a great RB and that any RB in the NFL can have a 125yd game. I judge RBs by what they do with what they are given and I havent seen B. Jackson do much of anything w/ what he has been given. I dont think he has blazing speed, I dont think he has good elusiveness, I dont think he can break a lot of tackles, and I have no clue how he was taken in the 2nd round.

That being said the Packers defense is gonna suprise alot of people I think. The biggest thing holding the Packers back from being a contender is the immediate future is Favre of course. Packers arent gonna win it this year, and next year Favre will be done, he really is just delaying ARodgers expierence. Favre also has one of the largest contracts in the NFL, one that he certaintly is no longer worth.

I got the Packers at 7-9.

[BillNye]

Either people are doing some serious leveling here or alot of you should stick to poker. NFL Head Coaches have twice the impact on a game that any one player can have.

Id love to back this up w/ bets but I dont really see a way thats possible. Hopefully Belichick winning the Superbowl this year will help.

Football is the ultimate team sport, and every position is important, and every position has a direct impact on all of the other positions and the coach is the piece holding everything together.

Im not going to argue this any further, as I said before if you are an informed fan this is clear as day.