Ryan Howard Wins NL MVP

[Pudge714]

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Morneau just won AL mvp.

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LOL

[mosdef]

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mosdef,

while your stats are fine for arguing against clutch hitting, you fail to realize that the MVP award is based on that "small sample size." Even if his career "clutch" #'s aren't off from his normal #'s, .397 w/RISP and .435 w/RISP w/2 outs are pretty crazy #s. Given its the MVP award for THIS season, I can see how people would find them relevant.

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Hi,

Yes, I agree. I was not commenting on the MVP race per se, just the idea that Pujols is super clutch, rather than just awesome and lucky with RISP this year.

I agree that for MVP you should count "luck" - higher BABIP, RISP, RBI, etc. Win Shares does a pretty good job of that, with defense included as well.

[AbreuTime]

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Morneau just won AL mvp.

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ZOMG LORD JETER DIDNT WIN!!!!

here come the conspiracy theories

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Jeter isn't even the best SS on his own team. They should trade him for starting pitching, and then watch A-Rod hit 50 HR's playing short.

[Thremp]

Abreu,
Since third is so much more physically draining and he's tired when he gets up to bat. Jeter is a lifer in pinstripes at shortstop. A-Rods production off of short>>>>>Jeter's production off of short.

Pujols is obviously selfish. If he would hit .20 pts higher for a career he'd probably increase his numbers to greatest ever contention instead of a simple HoFer. What an idiot.

[kyleb]

A good point from Baseball Prospectus (referring to how often people care about RBI's):

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If voters are going to put all their eggs in one basket, they're going to need to dig further down into that basket. If that basket is going to be RBI-–as it too often is-–then attention must be paid to how the players arrived at their RBI figures.

For instance, Howard batted with more men on base than anybody else in the National League: 509. That's over 80 more than Pujols and Berkman, 99 more than fifth-place vote getter Miguel Cabrera, and 132 more than fourth-place finisher Carlos Beltran.

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[PokerFink]

Nice post.

So often we talk about "protection." People fail to remember that the people who hit before you have a big effect on your numbers (mostly RBIs...duh) as well. It's nice having Utley and Abreu hitting in front of you.