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View Poll Results: What % of time does best hand fold @ 300/600+?
<=20% 31 70.45%
40% 6 13.64%
60% 0 0%
>=80% 7 15.91%
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Old 10-02-2006, 03:48 PM
Mike Jett Mike Jett is offline
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Default Re: New grads - poker or job, and why?

Choice isnt that hard these days.
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Old 10-03-2006, 02:13 AM
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Default Re: New grads - poker or job, and why?

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Choice isnt that hard these days.

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Upon careful reflection, I take back everything I've said in this thread. Poker is awful, jobs are great. I was wrong, you were right. I am stupid, you guys are smart. I'm ugly, you guys are handsome, etc.
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Old 10-04-2006, 10:09 AM
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Choice isnt that hard these days.

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Upon careful reflection, I take back everything I've said in this thread. Poker is awful, jobs are great. I was wrong, you were right. I am stupid, you guys are smart. I'm ugly, you guys are handsome, etc.

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Waiting for the dust to settle or looking for a job?
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Old 10-04-2006, 10:35 AM
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Choice isnt that hard these days.

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Upon careful reflection, I take back everything I've said in this thread. Poker is awful, jobs are great. I was wrong, you were right. I am stupid, you guys are smart. I'm ugly, you guys are handsome, etc.

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Waiting for the dust to settle or looking for a job?

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For now, waiting. I posted that when things looked horrible. I really think online poker's going to be unaffected after a couple months, so I'm waiting. But it was looking for a bit like I'd have to get a job, which was not enticing at all.
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Old 10-04-2006, 11:11 AM
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I graduated college in 2005, and I've spent the past year splitting my time between research and playing poker professionally. I'm living in las vegas now playing poker for the entire summer, but in september, I'll be getting a full-time job, and poker will become nothing but a hobby and source of a little extra cash.

Basically, while I enjoy poker, I find that it is rarely intellectually challenging, and I'm frequently quite bored with it. The same situations come up time and time again, and even when you are forced to think of something new, it is still just a game, and the thought processes are so limited within the scope of the game. Creativity, relevance, and impact on the world are all lost when poker is your entire world.

Furthermore (and this is not a necessary evil, but it is a realistic one for many of us), poker has made me lazy. I don't take care of myself, I don't accomplish as much in any given day, etc. Basically, I don't like who I've become as a professional poker player.

I think a job should challenge you, inspire you, and create some utility in the world, in addition to being a vehicle to make money. Poker does none of those additional things for me, so that's why I'm leaving it for a real job. For now, it's management consulting, but soon after, law school, and then I have no idea where.

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I'd also like to echo that this is a great post - I'm not sure what I want to do as a 2005 college graduate with a degree in nothing, but poker as a job sucks and while I don't yet hate the game, I don't want to become one of the people who do.

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Everybody who thinks this is a great post:

Besides the fact that it's considered "respectable" and you get to dress up and work in an office setting, what do you think is so "inspiring" about most of the jobs people choose to do? Honestly. Most jobs people take they take because it's their most profitable decision and they would ditch their jobs instantly for a better dental plan and higher pay in some other field. Obviously Vanessa is an exception, but even her field isn't exactly meaningful. Do you guys have any idea what management consultants do? I've talked to people who work in Vanessa's firm and they basically say they give obvious advice to idiotic companies.

This isn't to pick on Vanessa: the point is just that when people say that their jobs are meaningful, I think they're just rationalizing what it is that they're doing so they don't feel too bad about wasting their time corporate whoring themselves. I guess I could get one of the standard "right out of college" jobs. I could be an investment banker making money out of nowhere for rich people, or paralegal stapling papers for corporate lawyers defending large multinational corporations, or I could do relatively mindless consulting. I'm pretty sure that any job you can get right out of college that pays anything close to decent is not at all "interesting" or "inspiring": you want to do something meaningful, do Teach for America or be a social worker. But valuing some 9-5 corporate job over poker because of its "value" is somewhat silly.

Basically, unless you want to go to grad school and actually enter a profession of your choice, most vocations that people take just to kill a few years, put off deciding their future, and make a couple bucks aren't worth a damn.

Also, if you want to do productive things and progress as an individual, you're probably better off playing poker: you can work whenever you want so you can do all sorts of activities you otherwise couldn't. Read an extra book a week, volunteer at a couple law clinics or soup kitchens. Nobody said that playing poker requires vegetating around your apartment all day: if you only have to play 3 hours when you wake up and 3 hours from 11-1:00 a.m. you have a lot of time in between to be "inspired" and progress as an individual.

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couldnt agree with you more... and i think that is an all-time first between us haha.
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