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Old 05-21-2006, 12:53 PM
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Default Re: Poker Efficiency Rating (very long, nerdy)

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Nate,

Is EF3 a good measure for things here? W$SD by itself doesn't tell us a whole lot. A lower W$SD with a higher WTSD% could result in more money than the reverse, for example. Is there a way to somehow balance this out?

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you should note that WTSD is wrapped up somewhat in EF1 in our Win%.
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Old 05-21-2006, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: Poker Efficiency Rating (very long, nerdy)

27k hands from 10/20-20/40 running 2.05bb/100

18.9% Win% General Info (see Totals section under Known Starting Hands)
40.4% W$WSF General Info
54.8% W$SD General Info
5.31 Average # Players Summary

4795 Seen Flop w/ 2 Players General Info - Filtered (Money In + 2 Players Seen Flop)
3449 Seen Flop w/ 3 Players General Info - Filtered (Money In + 3 Players Seen Flop)
1156 Seen Flop w/ 4 Players General Info - Filtered (Money In + 4 Players Seen Flop)
211 Seen Flop w/ 5 Players General Info - Filtered (Money In + 5 Players Seen Flop)
18 Seen Flop w/ 6 Players General Info - Filtered (Money In + 6 Players Seen Flop)
0 Seen Flop w/ 7 Players General Info - Filtered (Money In + 7 Players Seen Flop)
0 Seen Flop w/ 8 Players General Info - Filtered (Money In + 8 Players Seen Flop)
0 Seen Flop w/ 9 Players General Info - Filtered (Money In + 9 Players Seen Flop)
0 Seen Flop w/ 10 Players General Info - Filtered (Money In + 10 Players Seen Flop)

2.67 ASF Average Players Seeing Flop
1.004 EF1 Win Efficiency
1.080 EF2 Flop Efficiency
1.095 EF3 Showdown Efficiency
123.5 PER Poker Efficiency Rating (adjusted)
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Old 05-23-2006, 02:50 PM
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Default Re: Poker Efficiency Rating (very long, nerdy)

Interesting effort. Last 94K hands. Limits from 10/20 to 100/200 although almost half at 10/20, about a third at 20/40, and only ~16K at 30/60+ (very little at greater than 30/60). Last 34K hands are at breakeven; overall BB/100 over this span is 1.19.

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Old 05-23-2006, 08:22 PM
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(B) Showdown hands. Given the hands that get showndown, compute the pot equity at each point in the hand. A guide to how to compute equity:

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the thing is this is very very computationally expensive. Do you have code or a practical way for somebody to do this for 50k hands?

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It computationally expensive. I'm working on some code to do this, it seems evident that any pseudo-WR calculator would take a very long time to return an answer. My problem is I like to use my free time for playing, so progress is glacial. [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Old 05-31-2006, 06:23 PM
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so i just found this thread and am offically fascinated. turns out i was playing bad as well as running bad. actually, i was running pretty much exactly as bad as i was playing, which is interesting.

one question i haven't seen brought up: Nate, is there a way to turn the PER # into some type of an expected win rate in the same vein as the xERA? or would that require a larger database of stats?
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