I cannot win on pokerstars. Reasons ??

[OnlinePro]

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1. To respond to the question why I am still playing at stars when i beat high stakes games elsewhere.

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Are you going to continue the list, or just stop at number one?

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To you idiots who continue to defend that there is no chance online poker can be rigged ur embarrassing urselves. There might be only 1% chacne that its rigged, but there is a chacne.

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There is also a chance that one of my friends dies tomorrow, but I'd be willing to bet against it.

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Whenver there is this much money at stake, companies will do anything in their power to make sure they keep making this money and making more of it.

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This is false and implies that anyone involved with the operation of a company (or large one, I guess) lacks morals.

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LOL at the last quote. I think it is safe to say that leaders of MOST large businesses, coorporations, or governments. Do not lack any morals at all right. I think I would trust my first born with POkerstars because hey there customer support is so great. Must be fun living in that pretend world of yours, but hey I guess ignorance is bliss.


And yes you may post all my stats and all my hands and have fun at critiqueing my play and looking for mistakes to make fun of.

My motives for bringing attention to the situation is that if enough people start to raise questions, then they will need to either stop what they are doing, or if they are not doing anything than simply do nothing at all. Either way, my complaints is +EV and when everyone who defends the companies is like I dont know how to explain it, but you are promoting and helping a company that wouldnt do a thing for you if you went busto and couldnt play again.

Anyhow I just dont see how it cannot be skewed.

1. If it wasnt skewed there would be no money left in poker economy, no more fish. They are just suppose to lose and with the speed of online poker they should run out of money very fast. There is no way the same fish will continue to supply money to sites.

2. The big reputable named pros, would be playing online the majority of the time. They obviously wont verbally say online poker is rigged, but you have to read between the lines and understand that if these games were legit You would almost never want to pass up on an online game to go to brick n mortar.

3. Look at the amount of people quick to call me a moron or idiot for posting something like this. Do you think these people do not have some sort of motive in de-crediting me ?

4. Majority of online poker players who step into brick an mortar get chewed up an spit out 3 betting with one pair on the turn. They then log on and hit their 2 outer on the river.

5. There will obviously never be any REAL proof, because if I had real proof I would not be posting it here, I would immediately and myteriously get large sums of deposits to my bank account from FTP, STars and partypoker, and you will never here from me again.


I just do not understand microbob, The guy has one million posts ? You could play an extra 2k hands per day if you just didnt post so much. I hope you get a paid moderator position or something.


If you want to make fun of something let it be my english and grammer as it is clearly the worst I have seen in anyones writing, but Enlighs is my second language to my defense.

[jman220]

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1. To respond to the question why I am still playing at stars when i beat high stakes games elsewhere.

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Are you going to continue the list, or just stop at number one?

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To you idiots who continue to defend that there is no chance online poker can be rigged ur embarrassing urselves. There might be only 1% chacne that its rigged, but there is a chacne.

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There is also a chance that one of my friends dies tomorrow, but I'd be willing to bet against it.

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Whenver there is this much money at stake, companies will do anything in their power to make sure they keep making this money and making more of it.

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This is false and implies that anyone involved with the operation of a company (or large one, I guess) lacks morals.

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LOL at the last quote. I think it is safe to say that leaders of MOST large businesses, coorporations, or governments. Do not lack any morals at all right. I think I would trust my first born with POkerstars because hey there customer support is so great. Must be fun living in that pretend world of yours, but hey I guess ignorance is bliss.


And yes you may post all my stats and all my hands and have fun at critiqueing my play and looking for mistakes to make fun of.

My motives for bringing attention to the situation is that if enough people start to raise questions, then they will need to either stop what they are doing, or if they are not doing anything than simply do nothing at all. Either way, my complaints is +EV and when everyone who defends the companies is like I dont know how to explain it, but you are promoting and helping a company that wouldnt do a thing for you if you went busto and couldnt play again.

Anyhow I just dont see how it cannot be skewed.

1. If it wasnt skewed there would be no money left in poker economy, no more fish. They are just suppose to lose and with the speed of online poker they should run out of money very fast. There is no way the same fish will continue to supply money to sites.

2. The big reputable named pros, would be playing online the majority of the time. They obviously wont verbally say online poker is rigged, but you have to read between the lines and understand that if these games were legit You would almost never want to pass up on an online game to go to brick n mortar.

3. Look at the amount of people quick to call me a moron or idiot for posting something like this. Do you think these people do not have some sort of motive in de-crediting me ?

4. Majority of online poker players who step into brick an mortar get chewed up an spit out 3 betting with one pair on the turn. They then log on and hit their 2 outer on the river.

5. There will obviously never be any REAL proof, because if I had real proof I would not be posting it here, I would immediately and myteriously get large sums of deposits to my bank account from FTP, STars and partypoker, and you will never here from me again.


I just do not understand microbob, The guy has one million posts ? You could play an extra 2k hands per day if you just didnt post so much. I hope you get a paid moderator position or something.


If you want to make fun of something let it be my english and grammer as it is clearly the worst I have seen in anyones writing, but Enlighs is my second language to my defense.

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OnlinePro:

Do you give permission for Sciolist to do an analysis of your hand history to determine the cause of this anomaly and post his results here?

Thanks,
--jman220

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Actually almost all the pros play online. Some more than others obviously but it would just be silly to live in Vegas with all that free money at the tables to go online and play against much more solid competition. I would also imagine that they do not want to put half a million dollars on the internet on something that's legal future is very muggy.

If it is sooooo rigged against you, why do hundreds of posters have PT stats with 100k+ hands and mathematically correct stats? And further, why on earth would the site not function if it wasnt rigged? You say the fish would no longer be around? Why in fact do millions of people flock to casinos to play slot machines and other casino games that are actually proven and casino admitted to being rigged in favor of the casino? Those are terrible arguments.

It seems everyone wants proof. Quit dodging the requests and post your freaking stats. Not hard to do man.

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yes I give permission to scoliosts to do my stats

[GrindingIt]

If you're losing regularily you are getting outplayed. There's about 0 chance it's anything else. Play better, adjust and don't look at the hands you got 3 outed on look at the rest.

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yes I give permission to scoliosts to do my stats

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What's your User ID? PM me please.

[Bobo Fett]

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Anyhow I just dont see how it cannot be skewed.

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So you installed the latest PT update and it didn't change your numbers?

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1. If it wasnt skewed there would be no money left in poker economy, no more fish. They are just suppose to lose and with the speed of online poker they should run out of money very fast. There is no way the same fish will continue to supply money to sites.

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So there are no fish to whom this is a form of entertainment which they willingly put money into repeatedly? There are no new players added to the mix?

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2. The big reputable named pros, would be playing online the majority of the time. They obviously wont verbally say online poker is rigged, but you have to read between the lines and understand that if these games were legit You would almost never want to pass up on an online game to go to brick n mortar.

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Why would anyone pay twice as much and drive all the way to a movie theater when they can see movies on video in the comfort of their own home for much less? Or on TV for free? Obviously the movies on TV and video are not legit.

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3. Look at the amount of people quick to call me a moron or idiot for posting something like this. Do you think these people do not have some sort of motive in de-crediting me ?

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Yes, we have a motive. We are hoping you will stop with the repetitive posts whining about rigged online poker. Especially when you continue to play online yourself, and post under the name "OnlinePro".

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4. Majority of online poker players who step into brick an mortar get chewed up an spit out 3 betting with one pair on the turn. They then log on and hit their 2 outer on the river.

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Um...ok. If you say so, it must be true. Or do you actually have some kind of proof?

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5. There will obviously never be any REAL proof, because if I had real proof I would not be posting it here, I would immediately and myteriously get large sums of deposits to my bank account from FTP, STars and partypoker, and you will never here from me again.

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Is that why you haven't posted your videos?

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I just do not understand microbob, The guy has one million posts ? You could play an extra 2k hands per day if you just didnt post so much. I hope you get a paid moderator position or something.

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Interesting...so you could play 2000 hands in the time it takes MB to make 19 posts?

[Sciolist]

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yes I give permission to scoliosts to do my stats

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What's your User ID? PM me please.

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Or if anyone else knows it, pm me please.

[Sciolist]

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1. If it wasnt skewed there would be no money left in poker economy, no more fish. They are just suppose to lose and with the speed of online poker they should run out of money very fast. There is no way the same fish will continue to supply money to sites.

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Some people play poker for fun. I'm one of them, and whilst it helps that I win, I'd still play a bit if I didn't. I have several friends who will put in $50 to a site and try to run it up or just play tiny SNG for a day. That's the price of their entertainment.

Some people are learning the game and know they are losing at the moment.

Some people think that they win but they don't. They justify this by complaining about factors other than their own play.


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2. The big reputable named pros, would be playing online the majority of the time. They obviously wont verbally say online poker is rigged, but you have to read between the lines and understand that if these games were legit You would almost never want to pass up on an online game to go to brick n mortar

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I once was asked to search our database for several big name pros. I found, essentially, all of them. They may not have revealed their IDs, but a lot of them play fairly regularly. However, most of them are technically inferior to the biggest online players, but have big advantages when they play live. They like money. So they play live.


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3. Look at the amount of people quick to call me a moron or idiot for posting something like this. Do you think these people do not have some sort of motive in de-crediting me ?

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I have an obvious motive. I'm not calling you a moron though, I doubt that you are. I am replying here because these unfounded posts harm the online poker industry by perpetrating the idea that people lose because the site makes it happen. People lose because of variance or because they aren't good enough at the game to win.


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4. Majority of online poker players who step into brick an mortar get chewed up an spit out 3 betting with one pair on the turn. They then log on and hit their 2 outer on the river.

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Live games are significantly easier at a limit than the online equivalent. I have no emperical data for this, just my own (pretty extensive) experience.


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5. There will obviously never be any REAL proof, because if I had real proof I would not be posting it here, I would immediately and myteriously get large sums of deposits to my bank account from FTP, STars and partypoker, and you will never here from me again.

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So why am I posting here? Whilst I like working for PokerStars, my loyalty wouldn't extend to, say, asking the owners to give me a (small, I'm not greedy) desert island populated by supermodels. I'd do that if I had evidence that the site is rigged.

[TheEye]

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Btw I think chezlaw has the most hands played against me. you can ask him how he thinks I play. My screename on stars is SUITEDKINGS1

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