Official SSSH LC/NC Thread for November! - Page 11

Hobbs. · #**101** 11-03-2007, 12:56 AM

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against me you should fold to the river raise because i have JJ.

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you play the turn like that?

thorleif · #**102** 11-03-2007, 01:00 AM

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against me you should fold to the river raise because i have JJ.

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you play the turn like that?

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yea i saw it happen once

milesdyson · #**103** 11-03-2007, 01:00 AM

nah just talking about the river play.

Hobbs. · #**104** 11-03-2007, 01:14 AM

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nah just talking about the river play.

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don't mean to actually talk strategy here, but once the turn gets played like that JJ shouldn't be in his hand range. BUT, since it is clear that he plays a hand played like that on the turn (there are lots of retarded TAGs out there) his range is larger than just hands beating us when the river is raised.

MacGuyV · #**105** 11-03-2007, 01:14 AM

How bad can I possibly run to be a loser at this [censored] site? Awesome 2barrell bluff into 2 players. Sweet river overcall.

Full Tilt Poker $5/$10 Limit Hold'em - 6 players
Hand Converter Tool from DeucesCracked.com

Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero raises, MP folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB 3-bets, BB folds, Hero calls, CO calls.

Flop: (10.00 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, CO raises, SB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (8.00 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, CO calls.

River: (11.00 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets, Hero calls, CO calls.

Final Pot: 14.00 BB

Results:

Hero shows Jc, Ah (a pair of Aces).
CO mucks Ks, 7h.
SB shows Qc, Kc (Ace King high).
Outcome: Hero wins 13.70 BB.
($3.00 Rake)

Hobbs. · #**106** 11-03-2007, 01:43 AM

for those that have played LHE 6 max games for a while now, how beneficial was reading stox's book to your game?

milesdyson · #**107** 11-03-2007, 01:54 AM

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nah just talking about the river play.

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don't mean to actually talk strategy here, but once the turn gets played like that JJ shouldn't be in his hand range. BUT, since it is clear that he plays a hand played like that on the turn (there are lots of retarded TAGs out there) his range is larger than just hands beating us when the river is raised.

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the only other hands that'll raise the river are AdKd and AdQd and the amount of retarded action these hands have put in on the flop and turn plus the fact that they're only two combos means you're still not looking hot when raised on the river. plus, the turn isn't exactly a blank for JJ, and there are only 6 combos of 66+77 that beat it (though i agree the raise is stupid). also, just because JJ can be in his range on the turn absolutely does not mean AA-QQ can be in his range on the river. players very rarely would play AA-QQ like that on the turn and river, whereas many would overplay JJ on the turn. of those who overplay the turn, 100% of them raise the river.

summary:

- raising JJ on turn is bad, yes.
- capping flop, raising turn, and raising river with AK/AQ diamonds is many times worse.
- AA-QQ make no sense.
- don't reraise.

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for those that have played LHE 6 max games for a while now, how beneficial was reading stox's book to your game?

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i just ordered it from stars.

mattnxtc · #**108** 11-03-2007, 01:59 AM

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for those that have played LHE 6 max games for a while now, how beneficial was reading stox's book to your game?

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between his book and his site I have improved an incredible amount.

Tryptamean · #**109** 11-03-2007, 04:41 AM

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for those that have played LHE 6 max games for a while now, how beneficial was reading stox's book to your game?

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between his book and his site I have improved an incredible amount.

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book is awesome, but the videos turned me from barely breakeven to a winner almost instantly

inferno · #**110** 11-03-2007, 06:00 AM

im getting his books soon(I hope) when I signed up at stox 4days ago

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