SSNL [cheese] thread: JUNE 2007 (nc) - Page 11

SpecT · #**101** 06-01-2007, 04:02 PM

also, im thinking of playing limit holdem

will it be hard to get good in like 2 or 3 days?

still havent found a cool picture

willw9 · #**102** 06-01-2007, 04:19 PM

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I really have to get some work done for my study, so I decided not to play poker until sunday.

As a result, I ended up playing with PokerStove and I learned that AA can be a severe underdog preflop... in a 9-way pot.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 07.128% 06.92% 00.21% 19254 580.67 { AcAd }
Hand 1: 10.723% 10.13% 00.59% 28197 1640.67 { AhKh }
Hand 2: 10.723% 10.13% 00.59% 28197 1640.67 { AsKs }
Hand 3: 17.516% 17.50% 00.01% 48698 40.00 { QcQd }
Hand 4: 14.702% 14.69% 00.01% 40868 40.00 { JcJd }
Hand 5: 12.138% 12.12% 00.01% 33736 40.00 { TcTd }
Hand 6: 10.219% 10.20% 00.01% 28396 40.00 { 9c9d }
Hand 7: 09.809% 09.79% 00.01% 27254 40.00 { 8c8d }
Hand 8: 07.042% 07.03% 00.01% 19554 40.00 { 2c2d }

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QQ>AA

Tickner · #**103** 06-01-2007, 04:26 PM

Rainclouds, cool, I never thought about it like that. Of course this exact situation is so rare it doesnt matter - but cool nonetheless.

keikiwai · #**104** 06-01-2007, 04:33 PM

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I really have to get some work done for my study, so I decided not to play poker until sunday.

As a result, I ended up playing with PokerStove and I learned that AA can be a severe underdog preflop... in a 9-way pot.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 07.128% 06.92% 00.21% 19254 580.67 { AcAd }
Hand 1: 10.723% 10.13% 00.59% 28197 1640.67 { AhKh }
Hand 2: 10.723% 10.13% 00.59% 28197 1640.67 { AsKs }
Hand 3: 17.516% 17.50% 00.01% 48698 40.00 { QcQd }
Hand 4: 14.702% 14.69% 00.01% 40868 40.00 { JcJd }
Hand 5: 12.138% 12.12% 00.01% 33736 40.00 { TcTd }
Hand 6: 10.219% 10.20% 00.01% 28396 40.00 { 9c9d }
Hand 7: 09.809% 09.79% 00.01% 27254 40.00 { 8c8d }
Hand 8: 07.042% 07.03% 00.01% 19554 40.00 { 2c2d }

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QQ>AA

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AA sucks

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

201,376 games 0.015 secs 13,425,066 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 04.917% 04.85% 00.06% 9772 129.40 { AcAd }
Hand 1: 04.835% 04.62% 00.22% 9297 439.40 { AhKd }
Hand 2: 04.828% 04.62% 00.21% 9297 425.40 { AsQd }
Hand 3: 21.132% 21.13% 00.00% 42554 1.40 { JcJd }
Hand 4: 18.089% 18.09% 00.00% 36426 1.40 { TcTd }
Hand 5: 02.636% 02.33% 00.30% 4700 607.40 { KcQc }
Hand 6: 13.887% 13.89% 00.00% 27964 1.40 { 9c9d }
Hand 7: 10.884% 10.88% 00.00% 21916 1.40 { 8c8d }
Hand 8: 09.293% 09.29% 00.00% 18712 1.40 { 7c7d }
Hand 9: 09.499% 09.50% 00.00% 19128 1.40 { 6c6d }

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Novles · #**105** 06-01-2007, 04:44 PM

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

201,376 games 0.015 secs 13,425,066 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 04.154% 04.15% 00.00% 8364 1.40 { 3s2s }
Hand 1: 08.370% 08.37% 00.00% 16853 1.40 { 5s4s }
Hand 2: 11.089% 11.09% 00.00% 22330 1.40 { 7d6d }
Hand 3: 10.207% 10.21% 00.00% 20553 1.40 { 9d8d }
Hand 4: 09.952% 09.95% 00.00% 20040 1.40 { TdTs }
Hand 5: 12.221% 12.22% 00.00% 24608 1.40 { JdJs }
Hand 6: 15.699% 15.70% 00.00% 31612 1.40 { QdQs }
Hand 7: 20.508% 20.51% 00.00% 41296 1.40 { KdKs }
Hand 8: 07.733% 07.66% 00.07% 15434 137.40 { AcAh }
Hand 9: 00.068% 00.00% 00.07% 0 137.40 { AdAs }

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Rainclouds · #**106** 06-01-2007, 04:48 PM

LOL, winner [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

wrschultz · #**107** 06-01-2007, 04:52 PM

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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

201,376 games 0.015 secs 13,425,066 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 04.154% 04.15% 00.00% 8364 1.40 { 3s2s }
Hand 1: 08.370% 08.37% 00.00% 16853 1.40 { 5s4s }
Hand 2: 11.089% 11.09% 00.00% 22330 1.40 { 7d6d }
Hand 3: 10.207% 10.21% 00.00% 20553 1.40 { 9d8d }
Hand 4: 09.952% 09.95% 00.00% 20040 1.40 { TdTs }
Hand 5: 12.221% 12.22% 00.00% 24608 1.40 { JdJs }
Hand 6: 15.699% 15.70% 00.00% 31612 1.40 { QdQs }
Hand 7: 20.508% 20.51% 00.00% 41296 1.40 { KdKs }
Hand 8: 07.733% 07.66% 00.07% 15434 137.40 { AcAh }
Hand 9: 00.068% 00.00% 00.07% 0 137.40 { AdAs }

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The first time I saw this posted here, it was a guy saying when to fold AA preflop.

$5/$10nl All stacks are equally $1,000.
If you're UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and open for $990, and each player on the table pushes and flips up the hands you listed above, you should then fold your AA for $10 more getting 890-1.

keikiwai · #**108** 06-01-2007, 04:57 PM

[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] BB's cold call

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $615.70
BB: $137.85
keikiwai (UTG): $243.95
MP: $200.00
CO: $302.10
BTN: $356.85

Preflop: keikiwai is dealt 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
keikiwai folds, MP raises to $8.00, CO folds, BTN calls $8.00, SB raises to $32.00, BB calls $30.00, MP folds, BTN calls $24.00

Flop: ($104) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB bets $70.00, BB calls $70.00, BTN folds

Turn: ($244) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB bets $36.00, BB calls all-in for $35.85
Uncalled bet of $0.15 returned to SB

River: ($315.70) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $315.70 ($3 Rake)

BB had 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Threes) and WON (+$174.85)
SB had A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a pair of Aces) and LOST (-$137.85)

Hornstar · #**109** 06-01-2007, 04:58 PM

FU Full Tilt. I have just deposited on FT and already lost a stack with Top Pair 2nd Kicker + nut FD when this happened.

I think this is standard and is variance kicking me in the nuts. Nobody is folding here are they? Please tell me your not!!!!

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

Hero (SB): $99.00
BB: $100.00
UTG: $159.60
BTN: $239.80

Reads: illain was 60/17/1.3 over small sample. He seemed quite donkish and I had been V.nittish. I very much doubt he knew that though.

Preflop: Hero is dealt 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
UTG folds, BTN raises to $4.00, Hero calls $3.50, BB folds

Flop: ($9) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $7.00, Hero raises to $26.00, BTN raises all-in to $235.80, Hero calls all-in for $69.00
Uncalled bet of $140.80 returned to BTN

Turn: ($199) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($199) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $199.00 ($2 Rake)

BTN had A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a full house, Jacks full of Aces) and WON (+$98.00)
Hero had 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a flush, Ace high) and LOST (-$99.00)

keikiwai · #**110** 06-01-2007, 05:04 PM

same villain who cold called $30 w A3o:

i [censored] KNEW i should have value pushed the flop

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $264.10
BB: $375.05
UTG: $458.05
keikiwai (CO): $203.95
BTN: $118.55

Preflop: keikiwai is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG raises to $6.00, keikiwai raises to $27.00, 3 folds, UTG calls $21.00

Flop: ($57) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, keikiwai checks

Turn: ($57) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, keikiwai bets $40.00, UTG calls $40.00

River: ($137) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG checks, keikiwai checks

Pot Size: $137.00 ($2 Rake)

UTG had 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a flush, Ace high) and WON (+$68.00)
keikiwai had J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and LOST (-$67.00)