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Old 09-24-2006, 02:34 AM
Golden_Rhino Golden_Rhino is offline
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For everyone from Canada and Europe, why do you care what our laws are? We aren't saying that your country must allow gun ownership, just that we want to allow gun ownership in our country.

With all due respect, it's none of your buisness what our gun laws are. If you don't like them, you don't have to come here.


FWIW, I do not own a gun, and I never will.

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I'm all for that pal. Nothing worse than one country sticking its nose in another countries business. Whether you guys are happy with your laws or not, it is up to you to work it out. The world really needs a cup full of mind your own f'ing business.
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Old 09-24-2006, 02:43 AM
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I love guns but am actually pretty happy mass has pretty strict gun laws cuz otherwise Id blow way too much money on them.
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Old 09-24-2006, 03:05 AM
Frinkenstein Frinkenstein is offline
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Default Re: Guns and the USA.

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For everyone from Canada and Europe, why do you care what our laws are? We aren't saying that your country must allow gun ownership, just that we want to allow gun ownership in our country.

With all due respect, it's none of your buisness what our gun laws are. If you don't like them, you don't have to come here.


FWIW, I do not own a gun, and I never will.

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The US is great for lots of reasons, but we just don't understand your culture and laws when it comes to guns. It's difficult to understand the US viewpoint on guns.

We hear the statistics on the murder rate and gun violence in the states and it's just hard to understand how american's can still love their guns so much. Of course, I realize there are other factors that influence the rate of violent crime in the states, but the statistics make it VERY difficult to believe that the pro gun culture of the states is not one of the biggest factors contributing to the high rate of violent crime.

I hear cops in London don't even carry guns!
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Old 09-24-2006, 03:59 AM
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I love guns but am actually pretty happy mass has pretty strict gun laws cuz otherwise Id blow way too much money on them.

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Now this is a stance that I can respect, the fukkers are expensive and ammunition will about run you out of cash completely.
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Old 09-24-2006, 05:30 AM
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regarding why we care about US laws:

I'm from Canada. I don't really care about your gun laws, howevever I find them very shocking and interesting. The idea of concealed carry, and people that routinely carry firearms with them blow my mind. If i saw someonen with a gun buying groceries I would be scared and get the [censored] out of there. I've been to the states a lot though, and haven't ever seen anyone carrying a firearm though. I think its mostly just stigma (though I only travel in LA/Vegas).

Actually though if it were easier to get a handgun legally I would definately own a couple, I am very interested in them. I can get my hands on one but mine would be very illegal.
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Old 09-24-2006, 08:42 AM
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What are the laws on being able to carry knives in the US?

Over here it's pretty much as strict as gun laws. If you're stopped with a knife, even a tiny one, you need to give really good reasons for carrying it in public.
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Old 09-24-2006, 12:19 PM
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Not hunting, or target practice, or collecting, or defending your home from burglars, but killing government officials.

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See: Darfur.

Or any other place that tyrants have run amok. First thing they do is disarm the citizens.
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Old 09-24-2006, 12:30 PM
Borodog Borodog is offline
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Default Re: Guns and the USA.

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For everyone from Canada and Europe, why do you care what our laws are? We aren't saying that your country must allow gun ownership, just that we want to allow gun ownership in our country.

With all due respect, it's none of your buisness what our gun laws are. If you don't like them, you don't have to come here.


FWIW, I do not own a gun, and I never will.

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The US is great for lots of reasons, but we just don't understand your culture and laws when it comes to guns. It's difficult to understand the US viewpoint on guns.

We hear the statistics on the murder rate and gun violence in the states and it's just hard to understand how american's can still love their guns so much. Of course, I realize there are other factors that influence the rate of violent crime in the states, but the statistics make it VERY difficult to believe that the pro gun culture of the states is not one of the biggest factors contributing to the high rate of violent crime.

I hear cops in London don't even carry guns!

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This is because your understanding of the statistics involved is incredibly poor. You hear one pair of statistics (high rate of gun ownership, high homicide rate) and you impute a causal relationship. This is of course what the people reporting that single pair of statistics want you to do, but you don't have to help them so much. It's an elementary logical fallacy.

Rather than try to convince you, if you are truly interested in understanding the phenomena of gun ownership and the American "Gun Culture", gun crime, and gun deaths in the United States, I suggest you start at GunCite and make up your own mind.
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Old 09-24-2006, 01:20 PM
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Default Re: Guns and the USA.

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What are the laws on being able to carry knives in the US?

Over here it's pretty much as strict as gun laws. If you're stopped with a knife, even a tiny one, you need to give really good reasons for carrying it in public.

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The laws vary from state to state. All states are fine with folding knives with blades under say 4-5 inches, such as pocket knives. Every male I know carries one. As far as I know it is also legal to openly carry any size fixed blade, up to a katana I suppose. You see this camping and hiking a lot, big bowie knives and things. Not so much in the city.

Concealing large fixed blade knives is a no-no. Ohio where I live has really vague laws so it isn't necessarily illegal to carry butterfly knives (balisong) blackjacks, etc but any particular cop might confiscate it and take you in if they don't like you. I gave my daughter mace to carry since I doubt her skill in a knife fight or willingness to stab an aggressor.

I have a concealed carry permit so I carry all kinds of things including large semi-automatic pistols.
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Old 09-24-2006, 06:13 PM
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An AK will shoot right through anything pretty much though. The bullets are huge.

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Absolutely incorrect. You know nothing about caliber.
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