***The OFFICIAL Jags - Pats game thread***

[utmt40]

All I am saying fellas is I am tired of all these people jumping on NEs bandwagon. NE does one or two things right and wins a few games and then everyone on here and ESPN is blowing them off. NE is not as good a team as you all think. I said it about SD and look what happened. NE will get beat next week vs Denver. Denver is too good this year and honestly they deserve to play in the AFC championship game and I hate Denver. Bottom line here is I understand you are a Pats fan and thats great but they are going to lose next week. Sorry if I pissed anyone off by saying they are going to get PWNED but the truth is the truth and that is my oppinion that I am entitled to. Good luck next weekend.

[Kneel B4 Zod]

I'm gonna be a nice guy and help you out.

If you want to argue about your opinion, then you need to back it up with objective, logical evidence that backs up your opinion. Saying "because I think so" or "they're gonna get PWNED LOLOLOLZ!!!!" just makes you sound dumb. So unless that's your goal, you really should stop doing it. If that is your goal, then please stop posting.

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All I am saying fellas is I am tired of all these people jumping on NEs bandwagon.

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but this is completely different than what you actually did say. here is what you did say 3 times:

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Once again NE get PWNED next week no matter who they play.

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next:

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NE does one or two things right and wins a few games and then everyone on here and ESPN is blowing them off.

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which one or two things are you referring to? which few games are you referring to?

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NE is not as good a team as you all think

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fine, but this is a useless non-statement unless you tell me WHY you think this is true

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I said it about SD and look what happened.

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it's absolutely irrelevant what you said about SD - this is a completely different case. plus, none of us know what you said about SD, making this statement even less useful.

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NE will get beat next week vs Denver.

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fine, but tell me why this is true. and...

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Denver is too good this year and honestly they deserve to play in the AFC championship game and I hate Denver

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none of these are reasons. effectively, you just said "A is true b/c A is true"; see why this doesn't work?

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Bottom line here is I understand you are a Pats fan and thats great but they are going to lose next week

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again, you have yet to give us a reason why you think this is true

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Sorry if I pissed anyone off by saying they are going to get PWNED

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you said it 3 times, which was the most annoying part

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but the truth is the truth and that is my oppinion that I am entitled to

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maybe the problem is that you're confused about the differences between "the truth" and "your opinion". the truth is a fact, like "my computer is a Dell". an opinion is something you believe, like "my computer is better than yours". If I want to make a statement like this, I need to give reasons why I think this is true...and saying "b/c that's the truth" doesn't count

[Christy]

Yeah, they've only won 3 of the last 4 Super Bowls. Why would the media give them any credit?

Look, I don't like the Patriots either, but your obvious anti-NE bias is showing.

The Patriots are not a bad team, and are probably the thirdbest team in the AFC(some would say they're better than Seattle, so 3rd best overall). But third best just isn't good enough this year when the first and second teams are quite a bit better.

[Myrtle]

For the sake of discussion.......

Denver's run defense will pretty much do a good job in stopping Pats running game.

Pats run defense (now healthy, jelled & much improved) will do a good job in stopping Broncos running game.

At that point it's passing offense vs. passing offense of both teams.

Who has the advantage then?

[Christy]

The Pats defense is just not as good as Denver's. Even if the offenses are a wash then the Broncos win with defense. The teams are somewhat evenly matched on offense, but I think that the Denver defense is superior.

[Kneel B4 Zod]

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The Pats defense is just not as good as Denver's.

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are you looking at season long #'s/observations to back this up?

[Christy]

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The Pats defense is just not as good as Denver's.

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are you looking at season long #'s/observations to back this up?

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Yes. Denver's defense is top 5 league-wide.

[utmt40]

I never said NE isnt a good team, they are a great team. But this year is not thier year. I agree NE may be the 3rd or 4th best team in the AFC which is why they get beat this week. I dont need to sit here and tell you why. Look at the last time Denver and NE played this year. Look at the other stats. That should be enough.

[Kneel B4 Zod]

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I dont need to sit here and tell you why.

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unless you don't want people to think you're a moran, you do.

[Kneel B4 Zod]

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The Pats defense is just not as good as Denver's.

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are you looking at season long #'s/observations to back this up?

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Yes. Denver's defense is top 5 league-wide.

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you should also look at the Patriots defense since they got most of their players back