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02-22-2007, 02:36 PM
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Re: How did life begin?
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If I were to hang around porno stars all day, read about porn, watch porn all the time, try to prove why porn is a good thing for society, I bet ill eventually come up with some kind of reasons cause thats all ive been spending my time doing and probably become obsessed etc and have such clouted judgement cause of my obsession and because of my obsession and choosing to explore that I would then alter my beliefs to allow me to feel good about doing that, like you guys. [/ QUOTE ] You say that like it's a bad thing... 
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#102
02-22-2007, 02:53 PM
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Re: How did life begin?
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[ QUOTE ] Right, and I never said NO ONE considers mormons christians, just that most do not, and most christian leaders do not (but i'm sure there are a few) [/ QUOTE ] Whoa. Did you just delete your post asking me to find one Christian leader (pastor, bishop, etc) who agrees that the LDS Church is a Christian church? [/ QUOTE ] so you figure finding a single person who is on your side proves your point. i thought you were better than this ... i guess i was wrong. [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] So this one is a little bit trickier. The thing is, Catholics do not consider non-catholics as in the "correct" faith. So they basically group all Christian denominations + mormonism + jehovah witnesses, etc into the same group. So its not really fair to use this argument that say that Catholics consider Mormons Christians, because they do not, however, they regonize that there may be some mormons who "incorporated in Christ and thus are in a certain communion, albeit imperfect, with the Church." but im not catholic so i cant really speak too much about this point. What is interesting to note is that a lot of the main denominations argue whether or not Catholicism should even be considered Christianity ... but lets not go there. [/ QUOTE ] Gotta love semantics, huh? It's funny how you're immune to semantic arguments, but I'm supposed to accept yours. Let's get semantic, though - the Catholic Church puts Mormonism into the same category as Baptism, Methodism, and orthodox churches. Roman Catholicism is the largest and most authoritative group that believe in Jesus Christ - drop them and Christianity is suddenly third place to Islam and Catholicism. But I guess since they don't dispute the LDS claim, they must not be Christians either. And I assume neither are Unitarians, or other demoninations that consistently consider Mormons to be Christians? It sounds like your definition of Christianity is "any group that hates Mormons." I guess that makes me a Christian too... [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] um no, but nice try.
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#103
02-22-2007, 02:59 PM
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Re: How did life begin?
oh btw:
"Unitarianism believed in the oneness of God and not the Christian doctrine of the Trinity (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in one God) proclaimed at the Council of Nicaea in 325. Historic Unitarians believed in the moral authority, but not the deity, of Jesus ... Today, many Unitarian Universalists do not consider themselves Christians, even if they share some beliefs quite similar to those of mainstream Christians." yeah, guess that would make them non-christian?
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#104
02-22-2007, 03:01 PM
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Re: How did life begin?
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If you sent 10^500 tornadoes at piles of scrap metal, You would end up with a fleet of 747s, a few M1 Abrams tanks, a few bentleys and most certainly a few cellular organisms. [/ QUOTE ] This is so wrong. All you would end up with is piles of scrap metal. Google the infinite monkey theorem. Stu
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#105
02-22-2007, 04:16 PM
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Re: How did life begin?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Right, and I never said NO ONE considers mormons christians, just that most do not, and most christian leaders do not (but i'm sure there are a few) [/ QUOTE ] Whoa. Did you just delete your post asking me to find one Christian leader (pastor, bishop, etc) who agrees that the LDS Church is a Christian church? [/ QUOTE ] so you figure finding a single person who is on your side proves your point. i thought you were better than this ... i guess i was wrong. [/ QUOTE ] I was referring to the post that you made, then deleted, saying just that.
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#106
02-22-2007, 04:41 PM
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Re: How did life begin?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Right, and I never said NO ONE considers mormons christians, just that most do not, and most christian leaders do not (but i'm sure there are a few) [/ QUOTE ] Whoa. Did you just delete your post asking me to find one Christian leader (pastor, bishop, etc) who agrees that the LDS Church is a Christian church? [/ QUOTE ] so you figure finding a single person who is on your side proves your point. i thought you were better than this ... i guess i was wrong. [/ QUOTE ] I was referring to the post that you made, then deleted, saying just that. [/ QUOTE ] i haven't deleted any posts ... and if you are going to interpret what i said as NONE OF THE LEADERS, then go for it.
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#109
02-23-2007, 01:43 AM
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Why exactly <u>is</u> porn a bad thing?? [/ QUOTE ] Its not porn, is sex for pleasure. Pleasure for the sake of pleasure = hedonism = idol worship = hording in on God's territory. Lots of the principles of religion are geared towards stamping out hedonism.
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#110
02-23-2007, 02:48 AM
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I am ... an engineering student in Sheffield, England. I would like to think that in general I'm a logical person and up to now I have had no major problems with accepting Christianity as logical. There are certain aspects that I'm unsure of but there have been other things I have experienced/seen happen that have made it seem illogical not to believe. [/ QUOTE ] This seems like a good opportunity to re-introduce and recommend Jacques Monod's classic "Chance and Necessity" : A biologist and philosopher discusses soup. No home should be without it.
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