NL Bots on Full Tilt

[Moneyline]

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I was one of the first ones to write to Ft after OP created this thread, mostly because I play at those same tables every day.

I have just received an email from FT with the standard answer : They have forwarded my email to the appropiate department (I send the email to the fraud department...???) and I will soon be hearing from them.

They always reply when they say they will. It might take awhile though.

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I got the same email. Full Tilt really needs to respond. Trebek's evidence is pretty substantial, but the answers given by nlnut & friends are so unconvincing that I'm even more certain of their guilt now. Full Tilt needs to bounce these guys from their site. Fast.

[1p0kerboy]

The statistics of the players and other evidence definitely tells us something is wrong here.

However, a couple of buddies getting together daily to play online poker should not be such a horrible thing, should it? Maybe the fact that they are profit sharing and helping each other is why they are being called a sweatshop?

[Suigin406]

full tilt's response to this thread speaks volumes...

are some of u people serious with the thought that bots aren't being used here??

[1p0kerboy]

And FWIW everybody who is hanging Nation at this point is wrong in doing so. Even if this turns out to be bot activity, I believe at this point Nation feels his friends are innocent. He should not be guilty from association.

[dragonystic]

Continuation Bet:

2997/3127 = 0.958426607
1104/1144 = 0.965034965
2757/2850 = 0.967368421
2205/2274 = 0.969656992

Bet Turn:

1151/4596 = 0.250435161
480/1801 = 0.266518601
1230/4857 = 0.253242742
961/3681 = 0.261070361

Bet River:

2497/575 = 0.230276332
961/216 = 0.224765869
2403/538 = 0.223886808
1836/411 = 0.223856209

can 3 separate humans, playing on their own, even if they play off of an identical strategy, produce these results?

seems virtually impossible. are they clones?

[1p0kerboy]

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full tilt's response to this thread speaks volumes...

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Micro Bob and others spelled out the reasoning for this and it makes sense.

This IS a HUGE ISSUE and Full Tilt has to handle it very delicately.

[lemming]

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And FWIW everybody who is hanging Nation at this point is wrong in doing so. Even if this turns out to be bot activity, I believe at this point Nation feels his friends are innocent. He should not be guilty from association.

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I think this is a point worth mentioning... Even though I haven't been very long in the forums, but it's definitely something to think about, for all those saying "uuh nation, I've trusted you up until this thread"!

[1p0kerboy]

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This IS a HUGE ISSUE and Full Tilt has to handle it very delicately.


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I do agree that they should, however, come on here and let everyone know they are aware of the problem and are looking into it.

I think the reason they are not doing so is because that would make it to where they would have to admit that they let this activity go the first time and WE are the ones that had to investigate, etc. IOW they would have to admit that either they [censored] up or didn't care, and even though it is likely the latter no way would they ever say that.

[primetime32]

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I believe at this point Nation feels his friends are innocent.

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Really? He tells us that his friend couldn't even set up a proper anti-virus program and yet there are old threads where nlnut is writing scripts of some sort.

[Suigin406]

^^1poker, i think u responded to ur own quote...

either way, it seems weak that they decided to ignore the thread so far and let the negative feedback build...at least a simple acknowledgement would have helped them a lot imo...

obviously they have to be delicate, but they're alienating a lot of people and that's not something that's good for them in the initial stages...