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check/call 1 8.33%
bet/call 5 41.67%
bet/3b 5 41.67%
check/raise 1 8.33%
bet/fold (NITS) 0 0%
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Old 09-24-2007, 03:11 PM
DevinLake DevinLake is offline
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Default Re: QQ vs. tag 3bet pf

I don't use a tonne of stats either, but one I use consistently is calls c-bet. I should add calls turn bet (if that's an option).

Basically your preflop play should be with thoughts to how the hand will play post flop.

So, if the villain is someone that limp calls a lot preflop but gives up on a lot of flops, than I isolate very liberally and fire a lot a c-bets.

If the villain just won't give up on hands post flop, I'm much more selective with the hands I isolate with. I want to be doing it with hands I feel comfortable trying to get three streets of value out of when I hit TP. Or hands that have big hand potential like SCs.

Also, it depends on they type of loose player they are. I'll isolate differently with a 40/15 then I will with a 30/5. This is because the 30/5 is much more likely to limp call with big As and other hands that the 40/15 will be raising with. So, if you isolate the 30/5 with ATo and get action on a Ahigh flop, you're not sure where you are at and attempting to get three streets of value may be just spewing.
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Old 09-24-2007, 03:18 PM
DerrtySlime DerrtySlime is offline
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Default Re: QQ vs. tag 3bet pf

is cash more profitable than sngs ?
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Old 09-24-2007, 03:19 PM
DevinLake DevinLake is offline
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Default Re: QQ vs. tag 3bet pf

Hard to say. I make more now playing cash than I ever did play sngs. But, I'm like 10x better now than when I played sngs.
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Old 09-24-2007, 03:26 PM
DerrtySlime DerrtySlime is offline
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Default Re: QQ vs. tag 3bet pf

ya , i used to be killing 25nl and now a downswing has occured and everything just seems boring and a bunch of weak tight pussies just ruins all the fun for me. The variance sucks.
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Old 09-24-2007, 03:52 PM
Jbrochu Jbrochu is offline
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Default Re: QQ vs. tag 3bet pf

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I don't use a tonne of stats either, but one I use consistently is calls c-bet.

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I'll have to add that one.



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If the villain just won't give up on hands post flop, I'm much more selective with the hands I isolate with. I want to be doing it with hands I feel comfortable trying to get three streets of value out of when I hit TP. Or hands that have big hand potential like SCs.

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What about small pairs like 22 --> 66 are you isolating or limping along against this type of villain?



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Also, it depends on they type of loose player they are. I'll isolate differently with a 40/15 then I will with a 30/5. This is because the 30/5 is much more likely to limp call with big As and other hands that the 40/15 will be raising with. So, if you isolate the 30/5 with ATo and get action on a Ahigh flop, you're not sure where you are at and attempting to get three streets of value may be just spewing.

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That's awesome thinking and will help. Thanks!
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Old 09-24-2007, 03:55 PM
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Default Re: QQ vs. tag 3bet pf

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is cash more profitable than sngs ?

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from personal experience i think so. without putting a huge effort into either, im now easily making more at cash. and ive found less variance in cash (or maybe i just sucked at sngs)
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Old 09-24-2007, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: QQ vs. tag 3bet pf

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ya , i used to be killing 25nl and now a downswing has occured and everything just seems boring and a bunch of weak tight pussies just ruins all the fun for me. The variance sucks.

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Old 09-24-2007, 05:10 PM
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Default Re: QQ vs. tag 3bet pf

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ya , i used to be killing 25nl and now a downswing has occured and everything just seems boring and a bunch of weak tight pussies just ruins all the fun for me. The variance sucks.

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Good table often turn into weak tight tables at 25NL, that's when I move to another table.

Seriously I don't sit down at a table unless it's 30%+ seeing a flop at 25nl.
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Old 09-24-2007, 06:23 PM
DevinLake DevinLake is offline
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Default Re: QQ vs. tag 3bet pf

no stats on this guy. General read is that he's been a little loose passive.

So, b/f, c/c, c/f? Factors that influence ur decision?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

UTG ($618.90)
Hero ($955.05)
CO ($450.77)
Button ($591)
SB ($610.13)
BB ($597.10)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $21</font>, CO calls $21, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: ($51) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $34</font>, CO calls $34.

Turn: ($119) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero ????
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Old 09-24-2007, 09:12 PM
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Default Re: QQ vs. tag 3bet pf

Fire two obv. 85ish.
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