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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] i always felt calling a 3bet with AK is superior to 4betting if you're in position, while the opposite is true oop. taking a flop with AK isn't that bad of a thing [/ QUOTE ] we lose all our value from QQ, and we can get pushed off very easily on rag flops which is going to happen most of the time, assuming vill is going to cbet. [/ QUOTE ] what value? you're flipping with QQ [/ QUOTE ] well we're getting absolutely no value from QQ when the flop is A73 |
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thats not right, theres at least 1 street of value there
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] i always felt calling a 3bet with AK is superior to 4betting if you're in position, while the opposite is true oop. taking a flop with AK isn't that bad of a thing [/ QUOTE ] we lose all our value from QQ, and we can get pushed off very easily on rag flops which is going to happen most of the time, assuming vill is going to cbet. [/ QUOTE ] what value? you're flipping with QQ [/ QUOTE ] well we're getting absolutely no value from QQ when the flop is A73 [/ QUOTE ] sure you are, many people will give you another bet on that flop with JJ-KK and they're right to do so. Hell, if it's a K high flop you're even more likely to get a street or two of value from them. and that doesn't include the times that you stack AJ or AQ here that would otherwise be scared away from the 4bet preflop. |
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can someone link me to some good discussion on why playing a TAG style we want to 4bet shove AK pf to me it seems 4bet shoving AK is more about our table image than opponent's range, as our image will greatly influence their calling range. i guess it's something to do with balancing our play? [/ QUOTE ] See AsleyPhive CR vid where he showed 4bet AK pf. It was sexy and I still can't do it. |
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infact, in position, they're likely to lead into you with QQ on that flop to see where they're at. a lot of people would even consider that standard
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Espcially because people love 3betting Axs these days.
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[ QUOTE ] lol yeah i went on autopilot googogog, 6 table NIT to the max just to get to supernova the last 12 hrs. usually i play looser and less tables and play a ton better. some of the stuff i was doing by the end of this session was laffable, but i wanted to get to supernova and take a long break this weekend. [/ QUOTE ] You be taking all my mobniez. [/ QUOTE ] pm me ur stars sn? |
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I went through a phase of shoving AK preflop like crazy. I got called by KTo, Q9o, 66, etc. etc. I think I lost like all of those, and I stopped doing it. Anyway, the point is people call shoves with nutty nutty stuff, they're retards and don't think about ranges, and the nice thing about AK is you're rarely in bad shape, though you're also rarely in great shape, so welcome to variance.
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cbloom,
i typically just 4-bet/call a shove. |
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cbloom, i typically just 4-bet/call a shove. [/ QUOTE ] Against nutty aggros I guess mini-4-bet is probably ideal cuz you'll induce a lot of crazy shoves. |
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