Venetian CEO Poker Tournament Main Event Furor

[BeaucoupFish]

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Unfortunately (as far as I know) when you download a file it changes the properties so there is no way for me to prove that Spook did not delete the line about the Nevada Children’s Cancer Foundation...

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I looked at the two files also. Each file has the name Sue Yurcic as the Last Saved by username. While not impossible, it is extremely unlikely anyone but this Sue Yurcic last modified both documents, since this is automatically updated when you save an Office document.

Looks very shady to me.

[Josem]

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Come on, did a near-riot really break out or did that just happen in your mind?

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Well, I think a near-riot is about to really break out on 2p2.

[Cornell Fiji]

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Unfortunately (as far as I know) when you download a file it changes the properties so there is no way for me to prove that Spook did not delete the line about the Nevada Children’s Cancer Foundation...

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I looked at the two files also. Each file has the name Sue Yurcic as the Last Saved by username. While not impossible, it is extremely unlikely anyone but this Sue Yurcic last modified both documents, since this is automatically updated when you save an Office document.

Looks very shady to me.

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Nice catch, you're totally right. I missed that.

This proves that the structure sheet they had online earlier did not include any mention of money going to charity (as Ms. Gomez claimed in this thread) and then when they realized this they put up a new structure sheet to cover up their scam in an attempt to play it off as if they were being forthcoming about the money they were stealing from the prize pool.

I can't wait to here Ms. Gomez's reply.

[tuq]

It should be easy to contact the Nevada Childhood Cancer Foundation to confirm that they are the recipient of the aforementioned monies. It's hard to believe that someone would make up a fake children's charity to siphon money for themselves, but I've heard of worse.

[Cornell Fiji]

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It should be easy to contact the Nevada Childhood Cancer Foundation to confirm that they are the recipient of the aforementioned monies. It's hard to believe that someone would make up a fake children's charity to siphon money for themselves, but I've heard of worse.

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Thats not really the point.

The point is that they took money out of the prize pool without telling the players and then in this thread Ms. Gomez claimed that she had notified the players on their website.

When it was shown that the structure sheet on their website had no mention of money being withheld they created a new document with the text that Ms. Gomez claimed was there all along and they tried to pass it off as if that was the document that had been up there all along.

In their haste to get a new document up on their site they got the name of the charity wrong, something that most likely would not have happened if they had created the document months ago as they had claimed. Of course, this circumstantial evidence is not necessary because one poster had saved a copy of the document that was previously on the website and it had no mention of money being withheld for charity. It can be verified that the poster did not alter the structure sheet that he took off the website by looking at the document properties.

If indeed the CEO poker tour had not intended to give this money to charity then the police should get involved.

If instead they just took money out of the prize pool without notifying the players then the gaming commission should get involved, players should have this money refunded (and they could donate it to a charity if they so decide) and those who perpetuated this cover up should not get another job in the poker industry.

[KotOD]

Does the waybackmachine store hosted files, or only pages?

[jt082005]

sad to see they had to do that, and kill any name they tried to get going for them

[citanul]

at the $1k buyin CEO tour tournaments, they were advertizing it as:

$1000+$75 entrance fee

then on the last line of the back of the structure sheet, there is a line that said 9% will be withheld for the staff. that's um, a lot of % too.

[RoundTower]

I have the lavender coloured structure sheet that was available during the event.

On the front, at the top, it says "$2500 + $100" in big letters.

On the front, at the bottom, it says
"3. Management reserves the right to change or cancel tournament."
"4. Five percent of total prize pool will be donated to Nevada Children's Society."
and
"7. $2500 Buy-In Start with $15,000 in chip's 60 Min levels no Rebuys".

On the back it has the TDA poker rules in really small print (size 8 or something). Underneath those in even smaller print
"The Venetian Poker Room reserves the right to modify or cancel tournament without any prior notice. Sign ups start two hours before the start of each tournament. Nine percent of prize pool will be withheld for tournament staff. Five percent of prize pool will be donated to the Nevada Children's Society. All payouts will be in the form of casino chips."

These are the only mentions of the prize pool on the structure sheet.

[doublejoker]

the 200 people in line had no idea of any of this. All they were seeing was a huge billboard stating $2500 + $100 and an entry card stating the same. An additional 3% may have been assumed. No one had any idea the real juice was $450 per player.