Overpair on Paired board - RANT

[milesdyson]

sam jack not a passive bitch

[TheHip41]

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What does Sam Jackson say?

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just because of this post, I'm changing over to the "raising the flop" class

awesome, Raise that *****

[MATT111]

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sam jack not a passive bitch

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SJ likes money.

[Heisenb3rg]

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I call this down against an unknown. KK is nearly the same hand as 66 in this situation and I doubt anybody would be arguing so vigorously for aggressive play with 66.

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Um no it's not.
66 is WAY more vulnerable and much more likely to be outdrawn by a non 9x hand. It's also possible he was passive PF and has a higher PP.

It's no longer WA/WB situation with 66.

[Rev. Good Will]

I hate to bump this from the dark, give everyone mind-aches and get everyone all peeved, but...

This is a really, really good thread. When in this situation, I used to more or less always raise, then treat as most WA/WB and call down, now I'm not too sure about anything anymore.

For now, I might just go for the puss move; just call down some predetermined % of the time with QQ+ in this spot using the random number generator on my wrist(for now, second hand 1-30 means call down [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]). Of course raise/punish all the time with lower pp's than that.

I cut/pasted it into a real reply button for the OP instead of using quick reply just so I can keep it in my favorites (this "flate mode" thing is really cool btw)

miles, I hope this isn't the reason why you hate 2p2

once again, really good thread. I'm gonna dig up that one that's causing all the fuss now [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

[Spy Dog]

For those that don't understand why I said KK is nearly like 66 in this spot:

1) He has a 9x. I have 2 outs either way so it really doesn't matter whether I hold 66 or KK.

2) He has 5x. Well, he has maybe 3 more outs with this hand when I hold 66 vs KK (but it doesn't matter when he holds A5).

3) He has air. THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT HOLDING!! I want to play KK passively, just like 66. I want him to keep firing with air. Yes, he has a better chance of drawing out when I have 66, which makes KK superior. However, it doesn't change the way I would play the hand. I never said I have the same equity with 66.

So, for situations 1, 2, and 3 I play 66/KK the same way for the same reasons. Sorry for the confusion.