"buffoonery by blacks whitening NFL" article by Jason Whitlock - Page 10

PITTM · #91 10-19-2007, 02:32 PM

I mean I get that, but did like Tom Cruise say it last week or something and now everyone else has decided to overuse it whenever possible?

MiloDanglers · #92 10-19-2007, 02:41 PM

I think that some people here are confusing "hip-hop culture" and the culture of lower to low middle class african-americans, socioecomically speaking. To some people, hip-hop culture might just be a more politically correct way of saying poor black people. I am not saying this is true or not, I am just saying that people's definitions might be diverging thus causing one side of the argument to not see the other's argument accurately.

Also, as en educator in a large urban school district, I disagree with JoA. Nobody is trying to "whiten" up anyone. All we are trying to do is get students to behave and learn. I don't think that constitutes as trying to make african-americans more white.

Hoya · #93 10-19-2007, 02:54 PM

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Also, as en educator in a large urban school district, I disagree with JoA. Nobody is trying to "whiten" up anyone. All we are trying to do is get students to behave and learn. I don't think that constitutes as trying to make african-americans more white.

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I'm still interested in some backup to JoA's assertions, since other stuff I've read hasn't agreed.

tarheeljks · #94 10-19-2007, 03:05 PM

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The basic idea is that the dominant culture of whites values individualism and competitiveness, while the culture of most minorities (typically Blacks, Hispanics, and American Indians) focus on cooperation.

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is this what you're referring to? my dad has explained this to me on a few occasions, i'll hit him up for the research.

Jack of Arcades · #95 10-19-2007, 03:19 PM

Sorry, didn't see your post asking for citations/links.

Here's a good summary:
Bridging identities among ethnic minority youth in schools

Gregatron · #96 10-19-2007, 03:30 PM

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Also, as en educator in a large urban school district, I disagree with JoA. Nobody is trying to "whiten" up anyone. All we are trying to do is get students to behave and learn. I don't think that constitutes as trying to make african-americans more white.

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I was a teacher on the Mississippi coast in a mostly black town. I agree with this statement, though I think JoA was making he statement (obviously) in good faith. There is a sort of clash of cultures going on IMO.

Jack of Arcades · #97 10-19-2007, 03:35 PM

Yeah, I didn't mean it maliciously, although it sounds that way.

vhawk01 · #98 10-19-2007, 03:37 PM

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I mean I get that, but did like Tom Cruise say it last week or something and now everyone else has decided to overuse it whenever possible?

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Yeah they really need to wane that [censored].

Hoya · #99 10-19-2007, 04:07 PM

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Sorry, didn't see your post asking for citations/links.

Here's a good summary:
Bridging identities among ethnic minority youth in schools

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A little vague with no real specific claims or backup, but I appreciate the link.

Max Raker · #**100** 10-19-2007, 05:58 PM

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"hip-hop culture" hurts everyone who practices it in all areas of life, be it sports or anything else.

by "hip-hop culture" I mean - guns, violence, drugs, and pointless displays of wealth are cool! Education and being respectful to others is selling out!

Not a recipe for a happy or productive life for anyone.

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This stuff isn't unique to hip hop. What about the "rock and roll culture".