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#91
10-09-2007, 09:51 AM
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Re: Should icing the kicker be banned?
This probably isn't all that relevant, but food for thought - it speaks volumes about the Bills that they need to resort to this cheap tactic to try and win a game they couldn't take over at home after intercepting Romo FIVE times.
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#92
10-09-2007, 10:23 AM
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Re: Should icing the kicker be banned?
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It's the anticipation that I would expect to distract them. The kicker starts his motion towards the ball and kicks it, but in the back of his mind he's expecting to hear a whistle. Imagine you were playing golf (or bowling, or whatever you do). For whatever reason you think your playing partners are about to play a prank on you by blowing an air-horn during your backswing. They in fact do not, and you go through with your swing. Don't you think you'd tend to perform worse in that situation than if you knew nothing unusual was coming up? [/ QUOTE ] Am I a professional athlete? It changes my answer. The injured party in this icing [censored] isn't the other team, it's the fans. It disrupts the flow of the game.
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#93
10-09-2007, 10:40 AM
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Re: Should icing the kicker be banned?
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[ QUOTE ] Who cares? [/ QUOTE ] Wait till Tom Coughlin does this to David Akers and he misses second. I promise you'll care. [/ QUOTE ] No I wont because if anything he probably has a higher success rate on the second kick than the first one.
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#94
10-09-2007, 10:43 AM
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Re: Should icing the kicker be banned?
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Also, changes in wind, a better jump for the defense, and (if you're on a natural field) minor changes in field condition can happen. Also, obviously, the possibility of a fumbled snap, bad hold, or just general stuff that happens when Tony Romo is your holder could happen too. [/ QUOTE ] Why is this more likely to happen the second time? Couldn't you get the better jump the first time etc.
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#95
10-09-2007, 11:00 AM
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Re: Should icing the kicker be banned?
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[ QUOTE ] Also, changes in wind, a better jump for the defense, and (if you're on a natural field) minor changes in field condition can happen. Also, obviously, the possibility of a fumbled snap, bad hold, or just general stuff that happens when Tony Romo is your holder could happen too. [/ QUOTE ] Why is this more likely to happen the second time? Couldn't you get the better jump the first time etc. [/ QUOTE ] I was tired last night after an entire day of writing essays. I may not have been clear enough, but basically, while I accept that all those things CAN happen on the first kick, and they're not MORE likely on the second, its not insignificant. A lot of it depends on the kicker's mental toughness. A lot of it is just lucky breaks. Phil Dawson missed a kick in Oakland after making his first one (correct me if I'm wrong). He was kicking on Oakland's infield, which is hard dirt instead of soft grass where you can get a good plant foot. Basically, there's lots of things that can go wrong, and you improve you chances of some of them when you let the kicker think about the entire situation for a minute. Its probably not significant, but the fact that we have this much debate over it and the only reason the people who want it banned can come up with is because "the fans" hate it leads me back to my initial answer to the thread that icing this way shouldn't be banned. For a guy like me who didn't care about either of the teams last night, the added drama of "can he do it twice?" made it better for me, and I don't think I'm alone.
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#96
10-09-2007, 11:25 AM
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Re: Should icing the kicker be banned?
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2) Of course this should be banned, and it's easy to do. Just make a rule that, on a FG attempt, the defense can't call a TO once the kicking team is set. You can still ice the kicker if you want, but what you can't do is fake out two million people watching the game into thinking they just watched the last play of the game. [/ QUOTE ] This makes it too easy for the offense to take advantage of the situation with fakes. If the offense comes out in "field goal" formation and quickly sets up in a field goal formation ready for a fake play the defense is screwed if they only have a couple of seconds to call them out on it. I still don't see a way to for the NFL to get rid of this practice without take the time outs away from the coaches. Even then the players can do essentially the same thing.
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#97
10-09-2007, 11:40 AM
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Re: Should icing the kicker be banned?
edge, if you're in a casino at a roulette table and it comes up red. do you then put all your dough on black for the next spin? because the chances of it coming up red twice are approx. 22.4%? easy money!
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#99
10-09-2007, 12:06 PM
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Re: Should icing the kicker be banned?
The way to do this is simple. Make a rule that if there are fewer than 5 seconds left on the play clock, then defensive timeouts can only be called by players on the field (not by a coach on the sideline). Iceing the kicker would still be possible the way that it has alwyas been done, but it would be difficult to call timeout at the last second, forcing the kicker to kick twice.
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#100
10-09-2007, 12:14 PM
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Re: Should icing the kicker be banned?
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edge, if you're in a casino at a roulette table and it comes up red. do you then put all your dough on black for the next spin? because the chances of it coming up red twice are approx. 22.4%? easy money! [/ QUOTE ] wow this is a great strategy - how have i not heard of this before
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