Ozzy87 busted for speeding

[FortWorthJim]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
What if Ozzy was acting nervous and jittery when the cop asked him if he could search his car and he said no? The cop then calls the K9 unit and has a drug sniffing dog show up. In most, if not all states, if the dog "hits" on the car they have the right to search it. Just because you don't give them the consent to search your car doesn't mean they can't/won't come up with a reason to do it.

[/ QUOTE ]

Once the cops are done asking you questions all you need to do is ask if they are detaining you. If not, you can go. If they are and they don't have probable cause for doing so they're in deep [censored].

[/ QUOTE ]

Do you really think that's how it works in the real world? My mom is a retired police officer. I got to ride with her many times when I was younger. Believe me, 99% of the people that think they can "beat" the cops lose.

In theory what you're saying should be true but it isn't. Who do you think the courts are going to believe...the cop or the guy who was driving like a maniac, speeding, carrying false ID, in possession of illegal drugs and paraphernalia and tested positive? My $$ goes on the cop.

I'm not trying to get in a pissing contest with anyone but some people can be naive about how things work in the real world.

[/ QUOTE ]

True.

I was arguing with a friend today. He got pulled over on a traffic stop the other day and gave the cop some grief.

The friend's brother turns out to know the cop. The cop says he almost maced my friend because he thought he was being "aggressive."

My friend said he wished he had so he could cash in on a lawsuit. I said the cop would probably just say my friend lunged at him. "It's my word against his," my friend said.

"Exactly," I said.

[RedWave]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Cop haters,

Please explain to me what any of law enforcement did wrong here.

[/ QUOTE ]

Did anyone in this thread even say anything bad about cops, or are you just looking for a fight?

[/ QUOTE ]

1. Dont think all you legal whiz tough guys get it. Both Ozzy and barney fief were likely very nervous. Also, very good chance car was getting searched no matter what.

2. Yeah, for sure he should not consent. But, you have 19 year old, arab, out of state, new beamer, coming back from 'vegas, he's 19, and hick cop with visions of being hero who catches next terrorist.

3. " Uh, Ozzy isn't of Arab descent..."
and i'm sure barney is aware of that. nit.

[/ QUOTE ]

You should replace "Cop haters" with "Lucky"

[Superfluous Man]

[ QUOTE ]
Cop haters,

Please explain to me what any of law enforcement did wrong here.

[/ QUOTE ]
OK, I'll bite. They enforced at least one immoral law. There I said it.

[pokergrader]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
What if Ozzy was acting nervous and jittery when the cop asked him if he could search his car and he said no? The cop then calls the K9 unit and has a drug sniffing dog show up. In most, if not all states, if the dog "hits" on the car they have the right to search it. Just because you don't give them the consent to search your car doesn't mean they can't/won't come up with a reason to do it.

[/ QUOTE ]

Once the cops are done asking you questions all you need to do is ask if they are detaining you. If not, you can go. If they are and they don't have probable cause for doing so they're in deep [censored].

[/ QUOTE ]

Do you really think that's how it works in the real world? My mom is a retired police officer. I got to ride with her many times when I was younger. Believe me, 99% of the people that think they can "beat" the cops lose.

In theory what you're saying should be true but it isn't. Who do you think the courts are going to believe...the cop or the guy who was driving like a maniac, speeding, carrying false ID, in possession of illegal drugs and paraphernalia and tested positive? My $$ goes on the cop.

I'm not trying to get in a pissing contest with anyone but some people can be naive about how things work in the real world.

[/ QUOTE ]

It is very likely in this particular instance there was probable cause and a legal warrantless search was going to occur anyway.

However, there are many other instances when police officers will attempt to search your vehicle and you should say no. It isn't any sort of battle to "beat" the police, even if you have nothing to hide you should say no to a search because it takes forever and they go through all your [censored] until they find something.

[Gramps]

[ QUOTE ]
that was a pretty [censored] up story.

DUI-Drugs? Is that worse than a DUI-Blue Label? Sounds like it to me.

Ozzy, if you read this. Time to grow up dude. You made about 15 errors here, if that news report was correct:

1) Telling them you played poker in casino's, as you are 19
2) Telling them they could search your car...even though I know how prick cops are and they probably said it in some rude way that made it sound like you had to let them...they are trained to do that. Tell them no, they cannot.
3) Telling them the joint was not yours. Come on. They aren't stupid and this just kills all of your credibility.
4) Telling them you used the fake ID to get into casino's. WTF? Belongs to your brother, you are holding it for him, he forgot it in your car lol You lied about the most obvious thing to tell the truth about, and told the truth on the most obvious thing to lie about. Whether that weed is yours or not, you are in posession, so you are busted. The ID on the other hand you can posess, but if you used it as illegal false documentation, then thats a new crime.

etc.

[/ QUOTE ]

One, two,

[Lucky]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Cop haters,

Please explain to me what any of law enforcement did wrong here.

[/ QUOTE ]

Did anyone in this thread even say anything bad about cops, or are you just looking for a fight?

[/ QUOTE ]

1. Dont think all you legal whiz tough guys get it. Both Ozzy and barney fief were likely very nervous. Also, very good chance car was getting searched no matter what.

2. Yeah, for sure he should not consent. But, you have 19 year old, arab, out of state, new beamer, coming back from 'vegas, he's 19, and hick cop with visions of being hero who catches next terrorist.

3. " Uh, Ozzy isn't of Arab descent..."
and i'm sure barney is aware of that. nit.

[/ QUOTE ]

You should replace "Cop haters" with "Lucky"

[/ QUOTE ]

I think somebody's a bit sensitive; I Don't hate cops at all. I'm just saying cops are trained to be straightforward, somewhat suspicious types. In order to be good street/traffic cop this is necessary. So to expect a cop to distinguish between pakastani and arab is ludicrous.
To expect him to view a 19 year old arab driving a 2007 beamer with 50k in a duffle bag and false Pakastani ID as a pokah balla is equally ludicrous.

[bad poster]

This is my first post, so bear with me, please. I must disagree with a statement in this thread. A number of fairly good lawyers will tell you to take any sobriety test offered, and then they would try and beat the test in Court. In the state I live in, (and I am a lawyer, but not a DUI attorney), a refusal to take a DUI test is an automatic license suspension, no questions asked and the appeal process is a bitch. Most DUI attorneys I know actually encourage sobriety tests and others because it usually provides them the best fodder for an acquittal.

And, to anyone saying that he(Ozzy) should have refused the search , that might have worked pre-Patriot act. However, the Constitutional guarantees regarding searches, seizures and invasions of privacy was swept out the window approximately 5 years and 11 months ago regardless of skin color.

[Ansky]

can ppl stop referring to ozzy as "arab" ?

[N 82 50 24]

well if you're going to claim to not be canadian then why can't he claim to not be arab?

[N 82 50 24]

also, it should be clear that i'm joking...

Ozzy is not Arab.