NCAA College Football Week 11 -- Rank'em

[Gregatron]

I think Kansas is a good team. Most people will not dispute this. The question is HOW good. They have not really played anyone yet, so it is a little difficult to tell. I think they have earned the number on ranking, and will have to win two more to keep it.

They might be overrated, but I do not think they are the most overrated team in CFB. That is West VA imo.

[TomCollins]

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M2TR, are you leveling me?

No, they'd be a .500 team in the SEC.

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Come on, we all know the SEC is so good, Kansas wouldn't even have a conference win in there. Even the Patriots would be lucky to be .500 in there.

[KUJustin]

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Kansas is the most overrated team in college football right now. When November 24th rolls around, I'll be making Missouri my POTY at sports betting.

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What do you think Kansas has done exactly to fool Sagarin who has KU as a touchdown better than Missouri? This is a sincere question, I know Sagarin's system is not infallible. I'm just wondering what, specifically, you think is causing such a huge "error."

[iggymcfly]

Turnovers are a pretty big part. They're #1 in the nation in turnover margin which is about 95% luck. Sagarin does not adjust for that stat at all.

It is kinda funny that I've positioned myself as the Kansas basher in this thread though. I actually bet on them 3 of the last 4 weeks, watched large portions of their games the last 3 weeks, and was for the most part impressed. I still think they're a very good team that has been undervalued by the betting markets more often than not. I just don't think they're Top 3 and I don't think they'll beat Missouri.

[TomCollins]

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Turnovers are a pretty big part. They're #1 in the nation in turnover margin which is about 95% luck. Sagarin does not adjust for that stat at all.

It is kinda funny that I've positioned myself as the Kansas basher in this thread though. I actually bet on them 3 of the last 4 weeks, watched large portions of their games the last 3 weeks, and was for the most part impressed. I still think they're a very good team that has been undervalued by the betting markets more often than not. I just don't think they're Top 3 and I don't think they'll beat Missouri.

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Turnovers are 95% luck? Wow, that might be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.

[Scary_Tiger]

What has earned the SEC this mythical status? Their out of conference road games versus Sagarin predictor top 100 teams:

L #62 Mississippi State at #7 West Virginia 13-38
L #29 Tennessee at #26 California 31-45
L #34 Alabama at #44 Florida State 14-21
W #42 South Carolina at #69 North Carolina 21-15

That's it. They haven't played anyone else on the road in the top 100, so they're 1-3 on the year, with their best road win being South Carolina over North Carolina by 6 points.

[iron81]

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What has earned the SEC this mythical status? Their out of conference road games versus Sagarin predictor top 100 teams:

L #62 Mississippi State at #7 West Virginia 13-38
L #29 Tennessee at #26 California 31-45
L #34 Alabama at #44 Florida State 14-21
W #42 South Carolina at #69 North Carolina 21-15

That's it. They haven't played anyone else on the road in the top 100, so they're 1-3 on the year, with their best road win being South Carolina over North Carolina by 6 points.

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Awesome. I was thinking about doing this kind of analysis. What about the home games?

[Jack of Arcades]

LSU over VT, that's about it.

[Scary_Tiger]

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LSU over VT, that's about it.

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L #21 Auburn vs #11 South Florida 23-26
L #83 Mississippi vs #13 Missouri 25-38
W #2 LSU vs #17 Virginia Tech 48-7
W #20 Kentucky vs #33 Louisville 40-34

There's a whole host of out of conference home games versus Sagarin predictor 40-100 teams, and I think the SEC might have won all of them. So it's not useful information for bashing the SEC.

[pirateboy]

Kansas has the worst SOS of any BCS ranked team.

How many BCS conference teams have they beaten with a winning record? 1.