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12-02-2007, 12:37 AM
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Re: who does tOSU play in the title game?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] If Hawaii wins their game tonight, they should be in. [/ QUOTE ] Why? Why why why why why? This argument should include three teams: Oklahoma, USC, and LSU. I can't comprehend how other people think there should be any other options besides those three teams. [/ QUOTE ] The goal of a season should be to declare an undisputed champ. If Hawaii loses the National title game then whatever team they lost to is the rightful national champ. Every other school would have lost including Hawaii. If Hawaii wins that game, then they've just beaten a tough team(in addittion to already beating a pretty good Boise St team) and they deserve it. Either way, I don't see how thats unfair! Whats unfair is what happened to Boise St last year. Do you not agree that Boise St did not get a fair shake last year in that they were undefeated, beat a solid Oklahoma team, and yet never got a shot at a title? That could happen again this year. [/ QUOTE ] I'm sorry but this argument is completely idiotic. Hawaii gets the benefit of playing the 3rd softest schedule in the land, and would have NO CHANCE of being anything better than AT BEST 9-3 with a top 30 schedule. AT BEST. 
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12-02-2007, 12:59 AM
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Re: who does tOSU play in the title game?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] If Hawaii wins their game tonight, they should be in. [/ QUOTE ] Why? Why why why why why? This argument should include three teams: Oklahoma, USC, and LSU. I can't comprehend how other people think there should be any other options besides those three teams. [/ QUOTE ] The goal of a season should be to declare an undisputed champ. If Hawaii loses the National title game then whatever team they lost to is the rightful national champ. Every other school would have lost including Hawaii. If Hawaii wins that game, then they've just beaten a tough team(in addittion to already beating a pretty good Boise St team) and they deserve it. Either way, I don't see how thats unfair! Whats unfair is what happened to Boise St last year. Do you not agree that Boise St did not get a fair shake last year in that they were undefeated, beat a solid Oklahoma team, and yet never got a shot at a title? That could happen again this year. [/ QUOTE ] I'm sorry but this argument is completely idiotic. Hawaii gets the benefit of playing the 3rd softest schedule in the land, and would have NO CHANCE of being anything better than AT BEST 9-3 with a top 30 schedule. AT BEST. [/ QUOTE ] I just don't get it... You think Hawaii is just benefitting from a tough schedule. I think they are truly a very good team. I also felt this way about Boise St last year, while I'm not sure of what your views on Boise St were. Now that we disagree here, I don't care about- lets just agree to disagree on this paragraph and not bother debating it. But..... My solution is to put Hawaii against a top team in the National Title Game. That way we find out if me or you is right. Your solution is to omit them. That way we may never find out who was right. HUH????!!! This is what I just don't get- why would you not want to find out how good Hawaii is? Its a well known fact that going into a season, most teams realize that if they lose one game then theres a chance they may have lost their national title shot. Every team knows this, and this year every team has lost a game(except Hawaii). So no team(except Hawaii) is truly deserving of a title shot and none have a legit beef of being excluded since they knew going in that a loss could mean no title shot. edited to add: I don't actually think that Hawaii is a top 2 team in the nation. But I'd sure as hell rather find out for sure than to not find out.
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12-02-2007, 01:07 AM
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Re: who does tOSU play in the title game?
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assani, im curious what rankings you are using to say boise>mich>anyone osu played [/ QUOTE ] I went to Yahoo and looked at the team's schedules and then looked at the little numbers next to the teams they played. Yes I realize that is their rank at the time they played, and I realize that I should've noted that in my post....I was wrong.
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12-02-2007, 01:08 AM
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Re: who does tOSU play in the title game?
Assani,
Please join us in the Washington Huskies victory game thread.
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12-02-2007, 01:15 AM
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Re: who does tOSU play in the title game?
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Assani, Please join us in the Washington Huskies victory game thread. [/ QUOTE ] Clark, If Washington wins then I'll obviously have no problem with Hawaii not being in the NT game. My argument has a lot more to do with principle than me having a true feeling on Hawaii(and to be completely honest I havn't watched more than 2 or 3 Hawaii games all year).
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12-02-2007, 01:25 AM
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Re: who does tOSU play in the title game?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] If Hawaii wins their game tonight, they should be in. [/ QUOTE ] Why? Why why why why why? This argument should include three teams: Oklahoma, USC, and LSU. I can't comprehend how other people think there should be any other options besides those three teams. [/ QUOTE ] The goal of a season should be to declare an undisputed champ. If Hawaii loses the National title game then whatever team they lost to is the rightful national champ. Every other school would have lost including Hawaii. If Hawaii wins that game, then they've just beaten a tough team(in addittion to already beating a pretty good Boise St team) and they deserve it. Either way, I don't see how thats unfair! Whats unfair is what happened to Boise St last year. Do you not agree that Boise St did not get a fair shake last year in that they were undefeated, beat a solid Oklahoma team, and yet never got a shot at a title? That could happen again this year. [/ QUOTE ] I'm sorry but this argument is completely idiotic. Hawaii gets the benefit of playing the 3rd softest schedule in the land, and would have NO CHANCE of being anything better than AT BEST 9-3 with a top 30 schedule. AT BEST. [/ QUOTE ] I just don't get it... You think Hawaii is just benefitting from a tough schedule. I think they are truly a very good team. I also felt this way about Boise St last year, while I'm not sure of what your views on Boise St were. Now that we disagree here, I don't care about- lets just agree to disagree on this paragraph and not bother debating it. But..... My solution is to put Hawaii against a top team in the National Title Game. That way we find out if me or you is right. Your solution is to omit them. That way we may never find out who was right. HUH????!!! This is what I just don't get- why would you not want to find out how good Hawaii is? Its a well known fact that going into a season, most teams realize that if they lose one game then theres a chance they may have lost their national title shot. Every team knows this, and this year every team has lost a game(except Hawaii). So no team(except Hawaii) is truly deserving of a title shot and none have a legit beef of being excluded since they knew going in that a loss could mean no title shot. edited to add: I don't actually think that Hawaii is a top 2 team in the nation. But I'd sure as hell rather find out for sure than to not find out. [/ QUOTE ] mindbogglingly asinine analysis/opinion
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12-02-2007, 01:33 AM
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Re: who does tOSU play in the title game?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] If Hawaii wins their game tonight, they should be in. [/ QUOTE ] Why? Why why why why why? This argument should include three teams: Oklahoma, USC, and LSU. I can't comprehend how other people think there should be any other options besides those three teams. [/ QUOTE ] The goal of a season should be to declare an undisputed champ. If Hawaii loses the National title game then whatever team they lost to is the rightful national champ. Every other school would have lost including Hawaii. If Hawaii wins that game, then they've just beaten a tough team(in addittion to already beating a pretty good Boise St team) and they deserve it. Either way, I don't see how thats unfair! Whats unfair is what happened to Boise St last year. Do you not agree that Boise St did not get a fair shake last year in that they were undefeated, beat a solid Oklahoma team, and yet never got a shot at a title? That could happen again this year. [/ QUOTE ] I'm sorry but this argument is completely idiotic. Hawaii gets the benefit of playing the 3rd softest schedule in the land, and would have NO CHANCE of being anything better than AT BEST 9-3 with a top 30 schedule. AT BEST. [/ QUOTE ] I just don't get it... You think Hawaii is just benefitting from a tough schedule. I think they are truly a very good team. I also felt this way about Boise St last year, while I'm not sure of what your views on Boise St were. Now that we disagree here, I don't care about- lets just agree to disagree on this paragraph and not bother debating it. But..... My solution is to put Hawaii against a top team in the National Title Game. That way we find out if me or you is right. Your solution is to omit them. That way we may never find out who was right. HUH????!!! This is what I just don't get- why would you not want to find out how good Hawaii is? Its a well known fact that going into a season, most teams realize that if they lose one game then theres a chance they may have lost their national title shot. Every team knows this, and this year every team has lost a game(except Hawaii). So no team(except Hawaii) is truly deserving of a title shot and none have a legit beef of being excluded since they knew going in that a loss could mean no title shot. edited to add: I don't actually think that Hawaii is a top 2 team in the nation. But I'd sure as hell rather find out for sure than to not find out. [/ QUOTE ] mindbogglingly asinine analysis/opinion [/ QUOTE ] Can you explain why? You'd rahter never find out(may be a moot point since they're losing now) than find out how good they are?
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