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12-01-2007, 10:39 AM
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Re: Pope blames atheism for all the worlds problems.
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] "A world marked by so much injustice, innocent suffering and cynicism of power cannot be the work of a good God," [/ QUOTE ] The inhabitants of this earth create the injustice and innocent suffering. The inhabitants of this earth have it in their power to eliminate it. Why should God be held responsible for its existence and mans choice not to eliminate it? Stu [/ QUOTE ] Ditto everything good, right? [/ QUOTE ] We assume it will be in the afterlife, where God is in direct control and man has no say anymore. But on earth, man has the free will to do what he wants within the confines of nature. To judge God on earth is foolishly premature. 
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12-01-2007, 11:35 AM
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We assume it will be in the afterlife, where God is in direct control and man has no say anymore. But on earth, man has the free will to do what he wants within the confines of nature. To judge God on earth is foolishly premature. [/ QUOTE ] This from the guy who thinks most people are going to hell... Uh, "within the confines of nature." Didn't God set up those confines? So why do "the confines of nature" actually result in incredible suffering (nature probably causes more suffering than man, or has historically)? Further, why do the confines of nature allow man great latitude in spreading awful pain, but limit his power to alleviate suffering? You want to talk about man's sinful nature, but the dice are loaded.
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12-01-2007, 12:34 PM
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Re: Pope blames atheism for all the worlds problems.
I dont see much to discuss here, the pope is an idiot.
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12-01-2007, 12:47 PM
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I dont see much to discuss here, the pope is an idiot. [/ QUOTE ] Pretty harsh. I can only imagine what you would call people who opine after reading an 8 paragraph news article of a 76 page text.
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12-01-2007, 12:49 PM
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Re: Pope blames atheism for all the worlds problems.
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[ QUOTE ] I dont see much to discuss here, the pope is an idiot. [/ QUOTE ] Pretty harsh. I can only imagine what you would call people who opine after reading an 8 paragraph news article of a 76 page text. [/ QUOTE ] Or perhaps have heard a tinsy eeensy bit about this 'pope' entity at some time prior in their lives. luckyme
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12-01-2007, 01:07 PM
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Re: Pope blames atheism for all the worlds problems.
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[ QUOTE ] I dont see much to discuss here, the pope is an idiot. [/ QUOTE ] Pretty harsh. I can only imagine what you would call people who opine after reading an 8 paragraph news article of a 76 page text. [/ QUOTE ] The latest pope is setting the Catholic Church back a hundred years. I'd be embarrassed to have him as leader. His denial of God given truths (the revelations of the natural world, the secular depths of ethics and morality) is particularly noticeable after John Paul II's wisdom in that area.
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12-01-2007, 02:31 PM
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Pretty harsh. I can only imagine what you would call people who opine after reading an 8 paragraph news article of a 76 page text. [/ QUOTE ] Hey! You're being awfully dumb. How can you criticize valen for one small post, when he has a huge posting history? Have you read all of his posts so you have a basis to talk about him? How about this - when you read one full page of pure idiotic drivel, reading the other 75 pages is stupid. I have better things to do with my time than wade through irrelevant hateful nonsense, and I've seen more than enough of it from this pope to know what his words are worth.
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12-01-2007, 03:15 PM
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Re: Pope blames atheism for all the worlds problems.
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[ QUOTE ] Pretty harsh. I can only imagine what you would call people who opine after reading an 8 paragraph news article of a 76 page text. [/ QUOTE ] Hey! You're being awfully dumb. How can you criticize valen for one small post, when he has a huge posting history? Have you read all of his posts so you have a basis to talk about him? How about this - when you read one full page of pure idiotic drivel, reading the other 75 pages is stupid. I have better things to do with my time than wade through irrelevant hateful nonsense, and I've seen more than enough of it from this pope to know what his words are worth. [/ QUOTE ] I hadn’t realized he was so well published. I was responding to his post which I assumed from the context that it was based on this thread. Had he wished the reader to know that his one sentence referenced his own history as well as the Pope’s, perhaps he should have made that clearer. And if folk want to base their opinion of a 76 page text from an AP news article I have no problem with that. If you (and he) are basing your opinions on prior information that is fine. It does no good, though, to give such opinions as presented.
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12-01-2007, 03:23 PM
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Re: Pope blames atheism for all the worlds problems.
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And if folk want to base their opinion of a 76 page text from an AP news article I have no problem with that. If you (and he) are basing your opinions on prior information that is fine. It does no good, though, to give such opinions as presented. [/ QUOTE ] Just read that Donald Trump has hired a group of girls he calls the Trumpettes. He's such a pompous ass, about as bad as it gets. luckyme
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