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12-01-2007, 02:10 AM
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Re: Fill up on river, shove or check?
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Hes going to shove a straight or a flush anyway, and I think he will fold Ax (non 2pr hands) to a shove. [/ QUOTE ] yeah that sounds good actually, i didnt seriously consider a small bet at the time. 
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12-01-2007, 02:13 AM
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Re: Fill up on river, shove or check?
I disagree that he will shove a straight. maybe a flush but no way he does all the time. I think he calls a shove with the flush more often than he will shove over our bet. and why are we putting villain on Ax? seems unlikely.
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#5
12-01-2007, 02:06 AM
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Re: Fill up on river, shove or check?
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[ QUOTE ] 84 [/ QUOTE ] seirously? why? If we are betting then this lets him off really cheap. [/ QUOTE ] i think hes probably picking a # based on the line and pot size and villain that he think the guy will call. if you think he'll call a shove, then shove sir.
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#6
12-01-2007, 03:23 AM
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Re: Fill up on river, shove or check?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] 84 [/ QUOTE ] seirously? why? If we are betting then this lets him off really cheap. [/ QUOTE ] i think hes probably picking a # based on the line and pot size and villain that he think the guy will call. if you think he'll call a shove, then shove sir. [/ QUOTE ] This tilts me. Shove. It isn't about how often he will call. It's about the EV of a bet. 10% of a $100 bet = 100% of a $10 bet.
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12-01-2007, 12:17 PM
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Re: Fill up on river, shove or check?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] 84 [/ QUOTE ] seirously? why? If we are betting then this lets him off really cheap. [/ QUOTE ] i think hes probably picking a # based on the line and pot size and villain that he think the guy will call. if you think he'll call a shove, then shove sir. [/ QUOTE ] This tilts me. Shove. It isn't about how often he will call. It's about the EV of a bet. 10% of a $100 bet = 100% of a $10 bet. [/ QUOTE ] There is a direct correlation between how often he will call and the EV of the bet, thank you for laying out the basic math for me though. I should've said "If you think he'll OFTEN call a shove, then shove". Being that I didn't look terribly closely at the stacks on the river last time I visited this thread (my bad), I'd say it looks more like a shove when betting the river than any lesser bet.
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12-01-2007, 02:10 AM
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Re: Fill up on river, shove or check?
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[ QUOTE ] 84 [/ QUOTE ] seirously? why? If we are betting then this lets him off really cheap. [/ QUOTE ] yea 84 seems really bad. I would just shove he's not folding a flush which is his most likely hand imo.
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