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Old 11-30-2007, 06:40 PM
SimaoMacaco SimaoMacaco is offline
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Default Re: Folded AK to raise PF (Standard??)

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Pretty standard, AK is a marginal hand and should be treated as such.


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lol

its the 4th best hand in holdem(top 2.5%)

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If dude is so tight he raises like 1% (AA, KK) or even 2% (AA, KK, AK) then i can fold this pre, but i need a bigger sample than 100 hands to make that judgement and if they raise 2% and i take the lead, i can fold AK on a whiffed flop - but obv i can get shafted if an A or K hits.

I open folded AK in a tourney once.. lol donkaments
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Old 11-30-2007, 07:13 PM
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Default Re: Folded AK to raise PF (Standard??)

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Pretty standard, AK is a marginal hand and should be treated as such.


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lol

its the 4th best hand in holdem(top 2.5%)

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If dude is so tight he raises like 1% (AA, KK) or even 2% (AA, KK, AK) then i can fold this pre, but i need a bigger sample than 100 hands to make that judgement and if they raise 2% and i take the lead, i can fold AK on a whiffed flop - but obv i can get shafted if an A or K hits.

I open folded AK in a tourney once.. lol donkaments

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ok pretending that he raises top1%(people don't raise topX% hands where X is their PFR generally)

allin equity
AA 77.4
KK 22.6
AKo 18.5
AKs 23.1
QQ 18.3
JJ 18.6
65s 22.5 possibly the best hand to have in this spot vs someone who is passive

clearly everything besides AA is marginal in that spot

top2%(stove uses JJ+,1st number, QQ+ AKs 1/3rd AKo is better IMO 2nd number)
AA 79.9 82.3
KK 60.0 54.7
AKo 35.0 36.1
AKs 38.4 39.8
QQ 40.0 34.9
JJ 20.1 29.8(AK outperforms JJ unless the range gets a lot of TT-22, and not AQ type hands)

now allin equity isn't everything, but a player like this, typically extracts poorly, and pays off way too much, yeah you'll stack yourself some but anyone decent will turn a profit with AK here

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pretty sure i leveled you. I'm not that nitty

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well nice, then again you talk about always folding KK preflop, so its tough to say
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