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#1
11-29-2007, 08:31 PM
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Re: management argue
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the correct min raise would be to 1600 (700 + 700 + 200) [/ QUOTE ] Wow. Bold and screaming -- and you are really bad at this. When was there ever a 700 raise to set that as the amount of the min-raise? 
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#2
11-29-2007, 10:15 PM
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Re: management argue
In the Hawaiian Gardens double the bet rule, which bet are you doubling? The bey, the raise, or the total calling amount?
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#3
11-30-2007, 04:54 AM
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Re: management argue
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In the Hawaiian Gardens double the bet rule, which bet are you doubling? The bey, the raise, or the total calling amount? [/ QUOTE ] The total calling amount. So the minimum progression (when players are raising and cover all bets) is 1-2-4-8-16. In the case of the opening post of the thread (repeated for clarity): "Blinds are 100-200. UTG raises to 800, a raise of 600 units. next player goes all in for 900, one hundred more. The next player wants to raise the minimum. WHAT IS THE MINIMUM AMOUNT THAT THE PLAYER CAN RAISE?" At Hawaiian Gardens it would be to make it $1800. ~ Rick
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#4
11-30-2007, 06:43 AM
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Re: management argue
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[ QUOTE ] the correct min raise would be to 1600 (700 + 700 + 200) [/ QUOTE ] Wow. Bold and screaming -- and you are really bad at this. When was there ever a 700 raise to set that as the amount of the min-raise? [/ QUOTE ] moron.... it's not, when was there a raise to 700?, it's, what is the action to the player in question? (a raise of 700) please somehow try to manage to get your mind out of the limit gutter
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#5
11-30-2007, 07:09 AM
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Re: management argue
I just can't see how it could not be 1500.
Suppose it goes like this: A bets $500, B raises to $1000, C goes all-in for $1499 total, D calls $1499. A now has the option to raise $1? (And in doing so, re-open the betting for D?) Having this weird loophole the minimum betting requirements can't be right.
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#6
11-30-2007, 03:26 PM
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Re: management argue
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] the correct min raise would be to 1600 (700 + 700 + 200) [/ QUOTE ] Wow. Bold and screaming -- and you are really bad at this. When was there ever a 700 raise to set that as the amount of the min-raise? [/ QUOTE ] moron.... it's not, when was there a raise to 700?, it's, what is the action to the player in question? (a raise of 700) please somehow try to manage to get your mind out of the limit gutter [/ QUOTE ] Well this moron is telling you (also a moron, possibly?) that you are absolutely wrong. The question is indeed "When was there a raise to 700?" The answer (i.e., "never") makes your answer incorrect. It is 200 (BB) +600 (Raise) +100 (additional all-in) to the next raiser. The raise is determined by the size of the previous bet or raise in the round NOT by the total action of all previous bets or raises in the round. If the middle player did not go all-in, but made a min-raise of an additional 600, the next min-raise would still be 600 (and a very silly bet). The question turns on whether the next raise -- which is clearly 600 minimum -- is on top of the current bet-to-call(1500) or do we ignore the all-in (1400). 1600 is not in the conversation.
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#8
11-30-2007, 04:26 PM
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Re: management argue
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i have explained this to you three time. you are wrong [/ QUOTE ] But you have failed to explain it even once using common sense or the rules of poker. In Todd world, you might be correct. But I will say it one more time for you: The last action that counts was 600. That is the minimum size of the raise. Only question remains is what the raise is added to: the 900 total all-in or the 800 from the initial raiser. I favor adding it to the 900, making the total 1500. There is no support for the Todd rule. Please do not post a one line response; find support for your position or STFU.
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#9
11-30-2007, 04:32 PM
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Re: management argue
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[ QUOTE ] i have explained this to you three time. you are wrong [/ QUOTE ] But you have failed to explain it even once using common sense or the rules of poker. In Todd world, you might be correct. But I will say it one more time for you: The last action that counts was 600. That is the minimum size of the raise. Only question remains is what the raise is added to: the 900 total all-in or the 800 from the initial raiser. I favor adding it to the 900, making the total 1500. There is no support for the Todd rule. Please do not post a one line response; find support for your position or STFU. [/ QUOTE ] Please let this part if the thread drop. Todd won't be able to answer for a bit.
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